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all right welcome fade to black

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the spoke radio for the masses today's

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Monday December 23rd 2019 357 days into

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the new year

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just eight days left and we are live

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from a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to black and

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tonight is our merry quit miss special

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for KJ CR the game changer Network and K

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GRA the planet I am your host Jimmy

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Church tonight our guest is Jason quit

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and we're gonna take the next two nights

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off for quit miss Eve and quit miss day

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and then on Thursday we're taking the

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night off for our annual holiday party

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at the rainbow Bar & Grill so

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technically we're working right right

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there you go that's our week here I want

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everybody to celebrate with friends and

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family and we're gonna have a great time

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tonight with Jason quick we're gonna go

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through the history of Christmas we're

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gonna do all of that tonight and we're

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gonna we're gonna partake in a few

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things we've got some lists that we're

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gonna put together and talk about the

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things that we're doing here with our

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family here in Burbank and and what

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Jason could do to celebrate Christmas up

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there in Toronto they've got a few ways

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that they have to do it too as well and

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we do the same thing here in Burbank so

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we'll be doing all of that tonight we're

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gonna have a great time so just kick

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back and if you're here to spend your

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holiday time with us just enjoy yourself

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we're going to have a

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we're just gonna have an amazing show

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tonight so enjoy all of it okay now you

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can follow me on Twitter at Jay Church

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radio which is simple follow me on Jay

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Church radio hashtag f2 B is the sandbox

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hashtag if to be you can jump in on the

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conversation over there

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we will post tonight I am sure a few

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thousand tweets will be happening with

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all of the fate or nots we also have to

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chatrooms open one over at a Spreaker

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and one over at K GRA the planet and you

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can chat room your night away there too

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as well

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now you can email throughout the show

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Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio.com and any

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questions or comments you can post it

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right there on Twitter hashtag f2b

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q okay alright email did I just do that

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just mentioned this Thursday the day

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after Christmas is our fade to black

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holiday party at the rainbow Bar and

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Grill in Hollywood California it's

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totally free just come and hang out I

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would like everybody to go and RSVP over

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on Facebook so we can get a rough head

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count we'd like to see how many people

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are attending and we have lots of gifts

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and things that we're giving away from

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our sponsors and I do want to thank

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for what they have sent out to the fader

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nots absolutely incredible Ronnie

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McMullen of life changed he also saw sir

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is going to be there and David salcedo

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and the rest of the family from saucer

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sportswear and they're going to be there

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too as well and so just come and hang

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out with all of this

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lots of a special guests are going to be

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stopping by and of course all of you

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fade or knots from around the country so

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that'll be Thursday December 26th the

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day after Christmas at the rainbow Bar &

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Grill still time to go and RSVP and

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we'll see everybody there

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and coming up now we've got our holiday

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schedule all finished and we've got a

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couple of things that we need to worry

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about we've got obviously Christmas Eve

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Christmas Day we have New Year's Eve and

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New Year's Day we'll be taking those

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nights off but the day after okay so

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we've got a special show that we're

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doing with Billy Carson a week from

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and that will be on December 30th

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that'll be next Monday Tuesday and

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Wednesday we're taking off Chris for New

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Year's Eve in New Year's Day but when we

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are going to be doing with dannion

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single night so if you want to come and

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replay that I'm going to select from

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years past that we'll be playing each

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night so you're not going to be left

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alone they're still gonna be programming

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all right and remember we're still

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working to as well oh man but the next

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14 days are gonna be incredible okay all

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shearer guitar god adrian belew today is

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63 our dead guys birthday today is corey

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haim 1971 to 2010 died at the age of 38

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great and very funny actor who started

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in two of my all-time favorite movies

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licensed to drive and lost boys both

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with Corey Feldman who became known as

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the two Coreys Cory's early success led

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to a lot of money and fame he had

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difficulties breaking away from his

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experience as a teen actor and was

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troubled by drug addiction throughout

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his later career he died of pneumonia a

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March 10th 2010 Hames neighbor at the

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Oakwood apartments right down the street

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from us here in Burbank said that Haim

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could be seen wandering around the

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apartment complex looking for

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companionship and looking for friends

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very very sad but I'll be listening

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because we love him happy birthday

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Corey Haim on this day in history 1986

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after nine days and four minutes in the

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in California completing the first

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nonstop flight around the globe on one

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load of fuel fader fact every quickness

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the United States Air Force performs

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operation quickness drop air dropping

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toys another presents to children who

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live on

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remote Pacific Islands it's the

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longest-running US Department of Defense

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mission in full operation and the

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longest-running humanitarian airlift in

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the world each year over 140 boxes to 59

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aircraft bet you didn't know that and

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that is your fader fact tonight is our

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and we're going to be taking the next

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two nights off quit miss Eve and quit

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miss day and then Thursday is our annual

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so we're gonna take that night off too

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but technically we're still working all

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here now I wanted to get to this I don't

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hit this coffee again over the last

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weeks I've talked about losing interest

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in a couple of big UFO subjects Bob

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Lazar and Tom DeLong's

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to the Stars Academy Lazar and TT si are

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not the first to attain this type of

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status with me it's happened many times

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over the years and the first time a

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subject was crowned with the I've lost

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interest banner was with Billy Meyer

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back in 1986 1987 right in there and I

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understand that there are still many

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people out there who believe in Billy's

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story his images his video that's fine

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but how I arrived

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you know to thee I've lost interest

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position with billy meier is a curious

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one considering it was Billy who helped

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bring me into ufology in the first place

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so let me explain it was 1985 and I was

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visiting the brother of a close friend

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of mine Gayle down in Orange County

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California when I walked through his

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house and saw a book on a coffee table

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with a full-color photograph on the

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cover and it was Billy Myers I picked it

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up flipped through its pages looked at

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the UFO pics in amazement I really

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couldn't believe what I was seeing and

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later

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Dale's brother filled me in on all

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things billy meier gave me the full

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rundown and I was off to the races

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during this period of the mid-80s it was

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research things were happening quickly

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and I just didn't have enough time to

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read and watch everything well you know

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I was working I am paying the rent

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playing gigs with my band living life

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right but I was committed to the billy

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meier story and then it happened someone

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told me that Billy Meyer had hoaxed

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everything his pictures his story and

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his video and I was stunned

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crushed maybe a better word actually and

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I looked at the hoax evidence I and I

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looked at his original material and I

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came to the conclusion that well

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although his story may be true I didn't

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have the time to pursue it I didn't have

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the time to pursue it with the same

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energy as before you see I had lost

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interest I would let others chase the

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good the bad and the ugly about Maier

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but me personally I checked out now it's

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very simple how this happened

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how I could just pull the plug on

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something as big as the mire story I had

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learned over 35 years ago how to utilize

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my time when it comes to researching the

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UFO subject and of course you know life

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in general when a UFO when a UFO person

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of interest or an organization wavers

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just a bit right but it wavers I'm out

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my time is too valuable and there isn't

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enough of it available to dive into

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everything anyway you know to go in full

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speed ahead both guns blazing all day

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every day it's just the way that it is

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you get the point

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this of course brings us to today's

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subject Bob Lazar and belongs to the

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Stars Academy and how they've been

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blessed with the I have lost interest

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golden crown the news media and the

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internet have forced us into thinking

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that we should be concerned about

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everything everything and it's not just

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politics or sports I mean every little

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tiny subcategory of anything that you

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can think of plastic straws sugar

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chicken sandwich Wars to diet or not to

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diet vaping guns unruly flying

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passengers electric cars the weather the

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planet dogs and cats and bad cops good

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cops shark attacks Banksy Saturday Night

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Live Apple streaming services 5 T

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Weinstein Epstein Star Wars Bitcoin the

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homeless the Kardashians it's just on

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and on and on and on and on and I didn't

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even mention Russia China brexit Ukraine

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Canada Mexico or Hong Kong and the

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million subcategories and I really do

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mean million the million sub category

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that are reported on with everything

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that I just mentioned all minutes all

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day long it has become too much we are

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expected to read watch and be interested

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in everything which is how I learned to

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say I've lost interest it's really that

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simple I've lost interest

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I can't possibly apply my brain to

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everything all day long I can't do it so

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I've chosen when to check out right

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because for me the most important

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question and issue for all of us is as a

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planet it's a simple one are we alone in

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the universe that's what is important

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the pursuit of the answer to that

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question will always have my interest

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but and there's always a butt right I

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get that but there is way too much to

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study and go after each day with the

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vigor that it deserves and sometimes I

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will have to pull back when I know it's

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not going to go anywhere that's right

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and this is what happened recently with

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Bob Lazar someone who I kept the faith

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with for the past 29 years I just can't

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keep the same level of interest that I

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once had and the reasons are both many

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and simple until there was a major

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breakthrough with Lazar concerning his

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possession of element 115 his education

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his classmates his professors and his

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employment well I'm out I'm out I

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checked out

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it was the recent story that was

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published about the FBI

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raid at his home a raid that had nothing

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to do with element 115 of the sport

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model and everything to do with a murder

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investigation that was being conducted

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and Bob knew this that he decided to go

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along with the made-up story about it

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being about Bob Lazar and UFOs and it

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was not so I'm out I've lost interest I

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spent enough time on the Lazar saga and

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my energy is now focused elsewhere

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that's right and the very same thing has

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happened with the longs to the Stars

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Academy too many unanswered questions

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linger in fact for me it's wayy too many

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the second and most recent pentagon

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release the second about louis Elizondo

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not having any assigned duties to the a

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tip program coupled with the pentagon

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saying that a tip had nothing to do with

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UFOs and everything to do with well you

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know reports studies about aviation and

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aerospace technology over the next 40

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years and that's it there were no UFOs

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mentioned in the a tip reports so who do

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you believe all right because by the

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pentagon saying the way that they said

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it it's the truth because the a tip

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reports back up the pentagon statements

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fact they say the same thing so i like

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everyone else in the UFO community have

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spent the last two years researching

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reading and watching everything that has

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involved tts a a huge amount of time

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invested and with the pentagon making

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these kinds of statements statements

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that go completely against the grain of

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what both Elizondo and t TSA have said

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i'm forced to back up and stop the car

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pump the brakes

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key and get out to stretch my legs

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that's right Matt I've lost interest now

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like the issues that continue to haunt

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Lazar until TTS a and Elizondo clean up

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the mess surrounding them the public

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like myself will move on to things that

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deserve their valuable time well things

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change for Lazard along and Elizondo

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anything is possible but I'll leave it

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to others to pursue for now there are

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much more important issues besides the

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Lazar and TTS a that deserve my focus

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like Banksy and plastic straws and I

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suggest you do the same pick and choose

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what do you want to research and invest

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in for the new year 2020 kicks off in

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just seven days and you need to get rid

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of the things that are not going

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anywhere

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leave it to others who are probably

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wasting their time not yours

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church tonight is our merry quit

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miss special that's right get ready I'm

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gonna come back after this break with

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Jason quit live from Toronto we're gonna

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do it all tonight we're gonna go down

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the history of Christmas that's right

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and it may or may not be what you think

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it is we're gonna get into Santa Claus

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his reindeer we're gonna do it all

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tonight

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this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church on the game change your

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network and kgr a the planet I'll be

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right back after this short break with

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[Music]

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all right welcome back

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fade to black I'm your semi church

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tonight is our Mary quickness special

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event with Jason quit now as we kick off

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the holiday season celebrate quit miss

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with us tonight as we take a look at the

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history the science and the conspiracy

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that has made this one of the funnest

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weeks of the year and one of the most

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popular holidays in the entire world

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Jason quit is a graduate of the

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Institute of energy wellness a student

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of the Algonquin shamanism and has been

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training and working with many teachers

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shamans and traditional healers from all

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around the world he's also the author of

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forbid knowledge revelations of a

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multi-dimensional time travel the

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Egyptian postures of power ancient ki

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Gong system and the use of codes sacred

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geometry mandalas his website is the

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crystal sun.com the links are Jimmy

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Turks radio and I would like to welcome

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back to fade to black the one and only

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Jason quit Jason Mary quit miss man and

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a merry Christmas to you oh I want fork

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witnesses my two front teeth yeah yeah

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we've been having too much fun these

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past couple of days yeah you know it

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it's it's so much fun and this is

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certainly you know from Thanksgiving

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until after New Year's this is my

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favorite time of the year and it kicks

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off for Thanksgiving which rivals for me

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rivals Halloween that's a big day for us

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I love that but Thanksgiving is it's

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just so wonderful and then heading into

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this time of the year it's just it's

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special and it goes back to our

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childhood and I'm sure it's the same for

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you right absolutely it's one of my most

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favorite times of the year and Halloween

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is up there and Thanksgiving but

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Christmas is a very special time now how

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do you guys you're in Toronto so you get

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a pretty good wallop of Christmas you

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get you get snow you get the cold you

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get the vibe right the Christmas lights

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and

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downtown with everything supposedly

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snowy white and I hope that it is you

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guys get to to enjoy a real version of

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Christmas as opposed to us out here

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where we have palm trees and sand yes

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it's completely snowed over here and

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I've been shoveling almost since the end

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of November so there's plenty of snow

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here and we actually set up our

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Christmas tree in mid-november so we

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started really early and we have lights

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on in the house so it's very festive

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here and how do you guys how do you guys

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choose to celebrate Christmas I mean how

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many do you do we do two Christmases and

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one is the normal Christmas and then one

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is a Ukrainian Christmas which is

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actually January the 7th which goes on

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the the Julian calendar so that's why

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it's a little different what do you do

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do you impeach your in-laws you know

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what

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the food that's all I got to say if for

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me Christmas is really about the food

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you can't go wrong and I married into a

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Catholic polish Ukrainian family so for

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Christmas we get pierogies schnitzel Oh

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what is it

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croqueta which is like how do I explain

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it it's like a pancake pancake wrapped

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with like mushrooms inside a mushroom

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gravy ridiculously good yeah we do all

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the same stuff here man it's just so

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good and we're over at a Rita's parents

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house yesterday and we left with a huge

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pan of frozen things that pretty much

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everything that you just list and you

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know her mom and her aunt is sit around

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and and do nothing but bake and cook and

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and get ready and we got sent home with

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the good stuff yesterday man oh so good

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it's so good now and what about you your

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background is what my background

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actually I was born into a Jewish family

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so

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it's now we have Hanukkah going on which

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started on the 22nd of December and it

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goes up until December 30th where we

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light the candles each day so it's like

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you get the best of both worlds you

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celebrate Hanukkah you get Christmas you

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know Wow can't go wrong

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Wow okay and and for you okay let me let

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me ask a couple of questions everybody's

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wondering the same thing right now right

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as you say these things marrying into a

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Catholic family what about the baby

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Jesus how is that dealt with at the quit

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house it's a good question we actually

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do not have baby Jesus here in fact we

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don't really have any religious items in

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our house this is actually the first

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year that we put together a Christmas

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tree but I think Monica has been asking

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for a Christmas tree the moment we got

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married so what's known about for years

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no no that's not what I'm talking about

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okay that's fine yeah what about when

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you're over at Monica's parents house

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the do mom and dad bring up the baby

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Jesus does dad go so Jason what about

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the baby Jesus I you know what they

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don't do that

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they're told they're totally cool with

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me and when they do their prayers it's

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in another language I think it's in

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Polish or Ukrainian so you know I just

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sit there and and copy what they're

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doing and be very respectful obviously

543
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:20,350
and you know everybody has their own

544
00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:23,770
beliefs and traditions and it's kind of

545
00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:25,300
cool in the family there's not really

546
00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:28,540
like that much at the table except

547
00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:30,580
everybody just enjoying each other's

548
00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:34,180
company and enjoying the food okay wait

549
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:36,190
okay so you guys so what you're saying

550
00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:38,770
is you guys are avoiding the

551
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:49,240
confrontation and it kind of goes both

552
00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:50,200
ways

553
00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:54,460
I mean you could bring it up to yeah but

554
00:29:00,600 --> 00:28:57,910
if I bring it up I'm gonna bring up the

555
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:00,610
version of the baby Jesus that we're

556
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:04,080
going to talk about tonight I've always

557
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:07,510
I've been fascinated with this subject

558
00:29:14,850 --> 00:29:13,180
when I was old enough to understand the

559
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:14,860
different religions around the world

560
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:17,350
right and the differences between them

561
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:22,270
and I was always confused and interested

562
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:26,470
in the two versions of the Bible which

563
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:31,570
are similar like probably 80% 80% the

564
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:34,810
things cross over and and are good but

565
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:37,870
then there is the obvious and that's the

566
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:44,410
baby Jesus it's just like how can how

567
00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:47,050
can I talk about this how can I talk

568
00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:50,620
about this without offending everybody

569
00:29:56,970 --> 00:29:54,580
because it's there and nobody else

570
00:30:00,450 --> 00:29:56,980
really wants to tell me the truth or

571
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:00,460
tell me really what's going on to get

572
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:03,130
rid of the confusion right it's it's

573
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:05,800
it's it's it's pretty funny if you think

574
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:10,960
about it well you know growing up in a

575
00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:15,010
Jewish household we had cousins that

576
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:18,520
also married into Catholic families so

577
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:20,770
even growing up I would go over to my

578
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:22,690
cousins and we would celebrate Christmas

579
00:30:27,630 --> 00:30:24,490
and you know they would have the baby

580
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Jesus there they would have the manger

581
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:29,650
scene and all these things set up around

582
00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:32,770
the house and I loved it it's like my

583
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:35,470
family loved going over to their house

584
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:37,510
for Christmas because it's just an other

585
00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:39,810
thing to enjoy time with your family

586
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:42,190
regardless of what they believe we

587
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:44,110
respect it all we know it's a belief

588
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:46,570
system it's know we know it they believe

589
00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:50,640
in that and but no one really discussed

590
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:53,860
the tradition to me it was something I

591
00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:55,690
had to kind of learn about later once I

592
00:31:00,990 --> 00:30:59,410
started to research this and it was part

593
00:31:02,909 --> 00:31:01,000
of the awakening process as well to

594
00:31:06,029 --> 00:31:02,919
learn about shamanism and the world

595
00:31:09,149 --> 00:31:06,039
around us and I did the very same thing

596
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,159
and left to my own right to go and

597
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:10,960
figure all of this stuff out and then

598
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:13,840
you kind of start to put the pieces

599
00:31:20,249 --> 00:31:16,809
together and you figure out that things

600
00:31:22,349 --> 00:31:20,259
are not what they seem and there's a and

601
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:22,359
and we're gonna start getting into this

602
00:31:27,659 --> 00:31:24,159
pretty heavily here in just a second

603
00:31:30,989 --> 00:31:27,669
but there's another part of Christmas

604
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:30,999
for me that I will never let go of no

605
00:31:34,259 --> 00:31:32,350
matter what I find out no matter what

606
00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:34,269
the conspiracies are no matter what the

607
00:31:41,609 --> 00:31:36,489
religions our politics or commercialism

608
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:41,619
get into play and that is the way that I

609
00:31:49,109 --> 00:31:45,039
was brought up with with Christmas trees

610
00:31:52,979 --> 00:31:49,119
with Santa Claus with the holiday movies

611
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:52,989
and in the celebration that to me is

612
00:31:59,840 --> 00:31:56,590
what Christmas is did whatever the

613
00:32:03,659 --> 00:31:59,850
mythology the folklore the history the

614
00:32:07,619 --> 00:32:03,669
conspiracy the paganism whatever the

615
00:32:11,549 --> 00:32:07,629
ships in history part of this it's not

616
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:11,559
going to tarnish my memories and and

617
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:13,980
that's that's where I'm at with us and

618
00:32:18,509 --> 00:32:17,320
before we kick this off because we've

619
00:32:22,349 --> 00:32:18,519
got a lot to discuss

620
00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:22,359
tonight I wanted to do this because

621
00:32:32,639 --> 00:32:27,789
speaking of you know me me personally I

622
00:32:35,729 --> 00:32:32,649
just posted up on social media my top 10

623
00:32:38,239 --> 00:32:35,739
Christmas movies and I went through this

624
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:38,249
I put a lot of time into this today and

625
00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:42,450
it may not be what most would think and

626
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:45,100
not everything is honor this is my list

627
00:32:49,379 --> 00:32:47,350
okay and then we're gonna go over your

628
00:32:52,049 --> 00:32:49,389
list in just a second and I'm gonna do

629
00:32:54,629 --> 00:32:52,059
this really quick my top 10 Christmas

630
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:54,639
movie starting at number 10 How the

631
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:57,730
Grinch Stole Christmas which is the

632
00:33:05,729 --> 00:33:02,080
original version from 1966 with Chuck

633
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:05,739
Jones as the artist that's a that's

634
00:33:10,729 --> 00:33:07,330
amazing I asked my number 10 my number

635
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:10,739
nine is Trading Places and that's from

636
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:13,330
1983 and there's a reason why I'm

637
00:33:16,739 --> 00:33:15,039
mentioning these dates and that's from

638
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:16,749
1983

639
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:19,480
The Nightmare Before Christmas that

640
00:33:25,529 --> 00:33:22,720
didn't come out until 1993 but I've

641
00:33:29,310 --> 00:33:25,539
watched it so many times and my kids

642
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:29,320
love the movie and it's just really cool

643
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,090
so that came into my number eight my

644
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:33,039
number seven It's a Wonderful Life

645
00:33:43,229 --> 00:33:37,450
that's right the original 1946 and then

646
00:33:45,629 --> 00:33:43,239
my number six is Scrooged 1988 with Bill

647
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:45,639
Murray and it's absolutely hands-down

648
00:33:49,349 --> 00:33:47,609
one of my favorite Christmas movies

649
00:33:55,289 --> 00:33:49,359
number five

650
00:33:57,659 --> 00:33:55,299
Bad Santa from 2003 yes that is one of

651
00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:57,669
my all-time favorite Christmas movies my

652
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:01,600
number four and and I'm surprised I

653
00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:03,730
think this should have been higher

654
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:07,169
on most people's list but it's die hard

655
00:34:16,799 --> 00:34:12,250
from 1988 with Bruce Willis and then my

656
00:34:18,419 --> 00:34:16,809
top three my three two and one for me

657
00:34:21,539 --> 00:34:18,429
number three is a strange one number

658
00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:21,549
three because it's from 1974 and that's

659
00:34:26,849 --> 00:34:24,339
the year without Santa Claus and that's

660
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:26,859
the one with heat miser right he's

661
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:29,200
mister heat miser

662
00:34:35,129 --> 00:34:32,530
he's mr. Sun right and that that would

663
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:35,139
that came out of 1974 most people think

664
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:37,929
it's older but it's not my number two is

665
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:40,480
Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer the

666
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:46,510
original claymation 1964 and stop

667
00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:49,990
animation and my number one a Charlie

668
00:34:55,859 --> 00:34:54,040
Brown Christmas 1965 the original with

669
00:34:59,099 --> 00:34:55,869
Charlie Brown so that's my top 10

670
00:35:00,569 --> 00:34:59,109
Christmas movies what are yours okay

671
00:35:02,789 --> 00:35:00,579
I'll start with number 10 and actually a

672
00:35:04,799 --> 00:35:02,799
couple of them you've already said so

673
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:04,809
number 10 is not actually a Christmas

674
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:07,270
movie but Ghostbusters you always liked

675
00:35:13,230 --> 00:35:09,240
watching ghostbusters around these times

676
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:13,240
my number 9 is trading places it's

677
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,650
actually your number 92

678
00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:16,240
which I found pretty interesting I love

679
00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:17,980
that movie mmm

680
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:20,380
then we got jingle all the way with

681
00:35:25,530 --> 00:35:23,049
Arnold Schwarzenegger not bad then we

682
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:25,540
have seven which is elf not bad

683
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:28,210
six we have tim and eric' chrimbus

684
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:30,370
special and I know many

685
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:32,170
people don't know what that what that is

686
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:34,150
I'll just say it's the most ridiculous

687
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:35,680
thing if you could actually get through

688
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:38,800
it then you have plane trains an

689
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:41,710
automobile which is classic and then

690
00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:43,750
this gets into like the 90s here where I

691
00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:45,160
kind of grew up and watch this stuff

692
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:47,620
which is Ernest saves Christmas oh

693
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:49,210
that's a great one

694
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:51,940
yes awesome yeah and then and then the

695
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:53,350
gremlins you can't have Christmas

696
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:56,290
without gremlins and then we have

697
00:36:00,810 --> 00:35:58,570
National Lampoon's Christmas and my

698
00:36:02,850 --> 00:36:00,820
personal number one movie that I think

699
00:36:06,450 --> 00:36:02,860
I've seen every single Christmas since I

700
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:06,460
was like a child is Scrooged with Bill

701
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:09,550
Murray yep yep that's a great list you

702
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:10,930
know that's a great list that's a great

703
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:12,490
list can't argue with any of that and

704
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:15,400
you can see the generational parts of

705
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:17,140
that too as well be the difference

706
00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:20,050
between you and I like elf which is a

707
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:22,120
great movie I you know it's great it

708
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:24,910
doesn't doesn't pull up my heartstrings

709
00:36:32,610 --> 00:36:27,700
you know like Bad Santa does I don't

710
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:32,620
know but but and that's all part of it

711
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:34,510
see that's what that's what Christmas is

712
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:38,950
and when you go back and look into the

713
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:41,500
real history of things because you and I

714
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:45,430
are both students of history it's what

715
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:48,730
we are doing constantly and when you're

716
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:51,790
a true student of history like we are

717
00:36:57,420 --> 00:36:54,580
you find out stuff every single day that

718
00:37:01,380 --> 00:36:57,430
you didn't know and it just you get

719
00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:01,390
these little paradigm shifts right these

720
00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:04,150
little things that cause you to go back

721
00:37:11,550 --> 00:37:08,260
and go wow okay really and it doesn't

722
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:11,560
get any bigger than the foundations of

723
00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:13,150
what Christmas is about

724
00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:19,030
and where all of that came from and one

725
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,100
of the first things I want to start at

726
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:24,400
one single point and I may be right I

727
00:37:32,220 --> 00:37:30,490
may be wrong here but is Horace and and

728
00:37:36,930 --> 00:37:32,230
I want to start there because most

729
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:36,940
people don't know they they may know the

730
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:40,090
Horace as an Egyptian god that's it

731
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:42,070
they don't know the real history of

732
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:43,830
Horace and if you go back and

733
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:47,730
and read all of the mythology and the

734
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:49,710
stories that have been handed down and

735
00:37:57,470 --> 00:37:54,330
repeated and written for thousands of

736
00:38:01,250 --> 00:37:57,480
years you don't know the real history of

737
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:01,260
Horace but if we stop and think about

738
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:05,700
the true Praja nadir of Christmas does

739
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:07,740
it start with Horace because Horace in

740
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:11,310
the mythology was born on December 25th

741
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:17,040
of the Virgin Isis Mary it's one of the

742
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:20,610
earliest stories that we have that has

743
00:38:28,070 --> 00:38:24,780
this creation myth with this December

744
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:28,080
25th date but we don't actually know

745
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:30,060
where this originally came from this

746
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:31,500
could have this story could have come

747
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:33,450
thousands of years even before the story

748
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:36,510
of Horace so it's a very very ancient

749
00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:39,930
story but yes Horace was born of the

750
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:44,520
Virgin Isis you know all these amazing

751
00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:46,110
things and it's not just Horace there is

752
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:50,630
about 30 plus deities from ancient times

753
00:38:57,020 --> 00:38:53,760
that have that same birth date of

754
00:39:00,770 --> 00:38:57,030
December 25th and it almost has the

755
00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:00,780
exact same story that we know today and

756
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:04,680
as in who who are those all right well

757
00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:09,240
one of them is Mithra and we have

758
00:39:12,260 --> 00:39:10,080
Krishna

759
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:12,270
well myth right let's stay right there

760
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:17,310
Mithra was also born on December 25th

761
00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:22,140
right born a virgin father a carpenter

762
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,670
had 12 disciples before miracles died

763
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:29,760
who was resurrected same with Krishna

764
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:32,940
even pre-christian the story of Krishna

765
00:39:40,850 --> 00:39:37,440
was also the anointed one called the

766
00:39:43,610 --> 00:39:40,860
Christ performed miracles born of a

767
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:43,620
virgin born December 25th these are the

768
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:46,530
same stories given are the same

769
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:49,950
attributes given to these deities or

770
00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:51,960
these stories what's a Krishna

771
00:40:02,110 --> 00:39:54,070
resurrected as well

772
00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:02,120
yes yes and what about addis thatis it's

773
00:40:09,070 --> 00:40:05,030
the exact same story and these are all

774
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:09,080
basically solar deities that tell a

775
00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:12,710
story of this kind of solar creation are

776
00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:18,230
the sons of God and Addis and Krishna

777
00:40:26,770 --> 00:40:23,360
Mithra sol invictus and also Jesus they

778
00:40:29,470 --> 00:40:26,780
all follow the same template yeah yeah

779
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:29,480
Addis born December 25th crucified

780
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:32,510
placed in a tomb after three days was

781
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:34,430
resurrected

782
00:40:40,090 --> 00:40:38,270
you have Dionysus of Greece of Greece

783
00:40:41,050 --> 00:40:40,100
right now what you know we're going

784
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:41,060
we've got

785
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:48,530
and and Greece because Dionysus was also

786
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:52,550
born of a virgin December 25th he was

787
00:40:59,890 --> 00:40:55,520
known as the King of Kings the Alpha and

788
00:41:03,340 --> 00:40:59,900
the Omega and the same situation where

789
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:03,350
he was upon his death he was also

790
00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:08,170
resurrected but all of these figures

791
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:10,820
around the world from different cultures

792
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:12,650
different continents right you would

793
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:14,930
almost have to be transoceanic to share

794
00:41:23,230 --> 00:41:20,120
these hmm but they all seem to have the

795
00:41:26,260 --> 00:41:23,240
same origin stories and you have to go

796
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:26,270
back and and try to figure out what was

797
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:30,410
everybody basing you know this this idea

798
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:35,930
on for each one of these gods and the

799
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:39,890
messengers that they revered right all

800
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:43,850
December 25th and all had died and most

801
00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:46,910
were resurrected all born of a virgin if

802
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:48,830
everything is consistent across the

803
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:50,930
board and before I feel like I'm going

804
00:41:58,900 --> 00:41:54,950
to be struck by lightning right what

805
00:42:02,020 --> 00:41:58,910
what what was the source of this what

806
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:02,030
was everybody seeing okay well you have

807
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:06,970
to first think about ancient human

808
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:11,310
and before religion before beliefs

809
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:14,890
ancient humanity always needed to know

810
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:18,430
where they were in in the world they

811
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:21,310
needed to know about the environment

812
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:24,310
they lived in the nature of the earth

813
00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:27,490
the cycles the stars the harvest where

814
00:42:33,870 --> 00:42:29,800
the animals are going they needed to

815
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:33,880
know about these ecosystems and for

816
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:36,430
ancient humans that knowledge itself was

817
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:40,810
life and death so the ancient human mind

818
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:43,920
saw themselves as this kind of divine

819
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,420
reflection of the laws around them and

820
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:48,400
this is the basis of gnosis it's the

821
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:50,950
basis of religion it's the basis of our

822
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:54,040
traditions came all the way back to

823
00:42:59,490 --> 00:42:56,470
these ancient minds that started to look

824
00:43:03,530 --> 00:42:59,500
at the world around them and it's from

825
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:03,540
these cycles that they created calendars

826
00:43:08,130 --> 00:43:05,590
archetypes they learned about the laws

827
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:08,140
that govern themselves and it was

828
00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:10,810
basically like the microcosm of the

829
00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:16,150
macrocosm so basically what I'll say

830
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:19,990
right now is that the religions and the

831
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:23,920
traditions that we practice today they

832
00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:26,890
really do come out of these cycles of

833
00:43:33,150 --> 00:43:29,830
time and I'll say this again these

834
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:33,160
cycles of time are encoded in all of our

835
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:35,650
religious texts that we practice today

836
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:40,380
but it is kind of hidden in allegory and

837
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,800
we can call this Astro theology and it's

838
00:43:50,580 --> 00:43:47,040
the study of the movement of the stars

839
00:43:52,650 --> 00:43:50,590
where the Sun is in the sky and the

840
00:43:56,130 --> 00:43:52,660
different seasons of the solstices and

841
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:56,140
the equinoxes this is the basis of our

842
00:44:01,080 --> 00:43:57,910
religious texts and this is where all

843
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:01,090
these stories and myths sprout out from

844
00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:03,750
this knowledge well that would explain

845
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:07,960
the consistency across countries

846
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:10,690
continents and cultures that they were

847
00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:14,050
all seeing the same things in the sky in

848
00:44:19,970 --> 00:44:17,320
the stars and that was the origin of

849
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:19,980
these stories and leading up to

850
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:23,040
we'll pick up with all of this after the

851
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:25,890
break but it has nothing to do with a

852
00:44:31,580 --> 00:44:28,710
manger right and three dudes you know

853
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:31,590
going across the desert chasing the Star

854
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:35,180
of Bethlehem to find the location of

855
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:39,170
this birth it had nothing to do with

856
00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:43,950
physical events taking place it had to

857
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:45,660
do with the stars above am i

858
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:48,030
understanding you correctly well this is

859
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:50,460
the biggest change in perception that

860
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:51,930
we're going to talk about because it

861
00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:57,210
goes from this historical story of a

862
00:45:02,570 --> 00:44:59,580
child being born of a virgin in a manger

863
00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:02,580
which is the beginning of Christian

864
00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:05,820
religion and what we're going to be

865
00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:07,080
talking about tonight

866
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:13,500
is that that scene that story may just

867
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:16,260
be a story and I don't want to offend

868
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,630
anybody but when we start talking about

869
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:20,640
this you're going to start to see what

870
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:22,770
we're trying to say here

871
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:25,170
it doesn't change Rudolph the red-nosed

872
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:27,330
reindeer for me ain't going to do that

873
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:30,510
it's it Frosty the Snowman is still near

874
00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:33,450
and dear in my heart but what this is

875
00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:37,950
part of looking at history and trying to

876
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:40,470
figure out what is real and what is not

877
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:44,010
and that's okay and we you and I I may

878
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:45,930
be wrong we may be wrong we may be right

879
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:48,240
it doesn't matter but it's really fun to

880
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:50,910
go in research and you start to look at

881
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:53,609
all of these names the gods the stars

882
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:57,210
the constellations the timing of all of

883
00:46:03,470 --> 00:45:59,490
this and it starts to make a lot of

884
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:03,480
sense doesn't it it does and also remind

885
00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:05,750
me closer to the end of the show why is

886
00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:10,859
Rudolph's nose red that's what I'm

887
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:12,630
talking about right there that's what

888
00:46:16,099 --> 00:46:13,200
I'm talking about

889
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:16,109
all right let's let's uh we're gonna

890
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:18,010
take a little break right here

891
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:22,090
[Music]

892
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:22,400
[Applause]

893
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:37,720
[Music]

894
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:42,040
all right welcome back it's our fade to

895
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:44,710
black marry quickness special event with

896
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:49,210
Jason quit live from the great snowy

897
00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:52,450
white north of Toronto and we're going

898
00:47:02,370 --> 00:46:56,950
over the foundations of what Christmas

899
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:02,380
is and it gets it to Jason and gets into

900
00:47:09,690 --> 00:47:05,920
some very very bizarre things here and

901
00:47:12,030 --> 00:47:09,700
one of them let's get into now is

902
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:12,040
something that has always confused me is

903
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:15,970
a virgin birth right now wait wait a

904
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:20,410
minute here and it's been explained to

905
00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:22,540
me over the years I've never understood

906
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:26,230
it but we have to ask ourselves these

907
00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:29,560
basic questions you know why the virgin

908
00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:31,060
birth on December 25th

909
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:34,780
why dead for three days and the

910
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:36,610
inevitable resurrection

911
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:40,690
why'd 12 disciples or followers and

912
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:42,460
let's start with the virgin birth on

913
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:44,530
December 25th what are the foundations

914
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:48,970
of that Oh Jimmy to understand that you

915
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:51,370
have to look at the the story of

916
00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:53,920
Christmas from an astrological solar

917
00:47:59,220 --> 00:47:57,550
point of perspective alright and this is

918
00:48:02,190 --> 00:47:59,230
why all these deities are born on

919
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:02,200
December 25th so I'd have to kind of

920
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:04,210
explain it first so people understand

921
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:05,590
and that we don't get a little off track

922
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:10,240
but remember our earth alright we have

923
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:12,850
seasons and that's caused by the Sun

924
00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:15,490
going from the northern hemisphere to

925
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:18,520
the southern hemisphere and you know

926
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:22,510
summer solstice June 21st the Sun is the

927
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:25,330
closest it gets to the northern

928
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:28,630
hemisphere so it's the longest day of

929
00:48:33,110 --> 00:48:30,850
sunshine we have the longest days it's

930
00:48:38,190 --> 00:48:33,120
the warmest the Sun is the strongest and

931
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:38,200
then from that solstice of June 21st the

932
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:41,050
sun's strength and position in the sky

933
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:44,530
starts to move south and it gets weaker

934
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:48,640
and weaker if we looked at it from the

935
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:51,250
northern hemisphere so from June 21st

936
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,730
the

937
00:48:55,859 --> 00:48:53,920
gets weaker and weaker and smaller and

938
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:55,869
smaller moving south

939
00:49:00,319 --> 00:48:58,480
in the sky all right and then on

940
00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:00,329
December 21st

941
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:04,660
you have the winter solstice and that is

942
00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:09,310
when the Sun is basically the lowest in

943
00:49:14,609 --> 00:49:12,520
the southern hemisphere as possible so

944
00:49:21,210 --> 00:49:14,619
this is why we have the longest day of

945
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:21,220
night on December 21st solstice now this

946
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:23,849
is where it gets really really

947
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:27,760
interesting Jimmy is that after December

948
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:33,130
21st December 22nd 23rd and 24th the Sun

949
00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:36,700
remains in the lowest position it's

950
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:40,420
almost like the Sun dies it doesn't come

951
00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:44,290
back into the northern hemisphere and in

952
00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:47,260
ancient times the Sun was actually seen

953
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,320
below the horizon it would not rise the

954
00:49:54,930 --> 00:49:52,240
way it usually does for three full days

955
00:49:57,809 --> 00:49:54,940
so in ancient times they would say that

956
00:50:01,079 --> 00:49:57,819
the Sun is dead is the literal death of

957
00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:01,089
the Sun for three days and then on

958
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,329
December 25th the Sun is resurrected

959
00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:09,520
again it Rhett is resurrected from the

960
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:11,349
cross of the equator of the Cross of the

961
00:50:18,329 --> 00:50:15,000
horizon and the Sun then moves back into

962
00:50:20,550 --> 00:50:18,339
the northern hemisphere so they say the

963
00:50:24,089 --> 00:50:20,560
Sun is born it's that it's a new life

964
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:24,099
the Sun is born again it's resurrected

965
00:50:30,839 --> 00:50:27,250
and on December 25th the son of god the

966
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:30,849
king of kings is born so we start from

967
00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:36,010
that now well we talked about the manger

968
00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:40,420
for example the manger was also like the

969
00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:42,280
symbol and ancient times from Egypt of

970
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:45,790
the ancient mounds and you know in the

971
00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:49,569
creation story the Sun came up from the

972
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:51,790
ancient mound and that's what brought

973
00:50:57,900 --> 00:50:54,970
life in creation and light into this

974
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:57,910
world so you have these kind of

975
00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:01,119
parallels now another interesting fact

976
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:03,990
with this whole manger story is that

977
00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:05,470
Jesus

978
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:15,880
about three wise men all right who we

979
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:17,920
get into the three wise men oh yeah yeah

980
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:22,720
and we'll see all of this is is tied

981
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:27,520
into the same adventure and timing of

982
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:30,790
days right so we have the three days we

983
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:34,690
have the resurrection the and and then

984
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:38,320
the birth on September our on December

985
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:44,020
20 on December 25th and the the virgin

986
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:45,400
part of this which we're going to get

987
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:48,640
into in just a second all plays in to

988
00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:50,550
the same thing in the three wise men

989
00:51:58,020 --> 00:51:53,859
have to fit into this story as well and

990
00:52:01,220 --> 00:51:58,030
it all happens at the same time so with

991
00:52:05,790 --> 00:52:01,230
the three wise men what's their origins

992
00:52:08,670 --> 00:52:05,800
in ancient times the three wise men was

993
00:52:11,790 --> 00:52:08,680
known as the three stars of the Orion's

994
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:11,800
belt and that's what it was called in

995
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:13,510
ancient times was the three wise men

996
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:16,960
now there's something very special that

997
00:52:21,089 --> 00:52:19,750
happens in the night of December 21st

998
00:52:26,359 --> 00:52:21,099
whether you mean the early morning of

999
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:26,369
December 25th what happens is is that

1000
00:52:34,410 --> 00:52:31,330
Orion's belt points perfectly vertical

1001
00:52:37,380 --> 00:52:34,420
down facing the earth to the brightest

1002
00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:37,390
star in the sky which is serious at that

1003
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:39,820
time is pointing straight down to Sirius

1004
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:42,609
which was actually called the Star of

1005
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:45,790
Bethlehem in ancient times so you

1006
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:48,300
remember the three wise men followed the

1007
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:51,790
Star of Bethlehem to where the Sun is

1008
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:54,430
being born okay this is very very

1009
00:53:00,359 --> 00:52:58,330
important language so on one night out

1010
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:00,369
of the whole year the only night

1011
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:02,650
December 25th or the early morning

1012
00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:06,430
December 25th is the only time where

1013
00:53:12,750 --> 00:53:09,270
Orion's belt will align perfectly

1014
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:12,760
vertical to the Earth's horizon with

1015
00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:16,810
Sirius star facing the east perfectly

1016
00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:19,240
and on that morning

1017
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:23,020
December 25th morning the Sun will rise

1018
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:27,730
over the horizon at the exact location

1019
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:30,640
of where the star of the East serious

1020
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:33,610
and Orion's belt the three wise men are

1021
00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:36,250
pointing directly to the Sun rising on

1022
00:53:43,170 --> 00:53:39,870
December 25th to be born again so the

1023
00:53:46,380 --> 00:53:43,180
three wise men the Three Magi or the

1024
00:53:49,110 --> 00:53:46,390
three kings are those three stars in

1025
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Orion's belt which are directly in line

1026
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,210
with Sirius the star of the east which

1027
00:53:57,690 --> 00:53:54,400
is the brightest star in the sky all

1028
00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:57,700
this happens on December 25th when the

1029
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:01,270
Sun finally is back and is born right

1030
00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:03,310
when the when the Sun finally is

1031
00:54:11,130 --> 00:54:05,860
resurrected after three days of death

1032
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:11,140
yes yes and what's also interesting is

1033
00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:14,950
if you look at ancient artwork of the

1034
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:19,240
baby Jesus you'll see you'll see that

1035
00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:24,010
there's a halo around his head and above

1036
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:27,160
his head is the star and this is showing

1037
00:54:33,690 --> 00:54:29,470
you the Star of Bethlehem which is

1038
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:33,700
serious and he is the son the son of God

1039
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:38,050
is risen again this is the allegory of

1040
00:54:46,620 --> 00:54:41,260
these paintings what's also interesting

1041
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:46,630
is that Jesus is born between a horse

1042
00:54:54,590 --> 00:54:51,130
and a goat it's kind of weird right but

1043
00:54:59,730 --> 00:54:54,600
the horse and the goat is actually

1044
00:55:02,520 --> 00:54:59,740
Capricorn and Sagittarius astrologically

1045
00:55:06,210 --> 00:55:02,530
speaking and if you were born on

1046
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:06,220
December 25th your astrological signs

1047
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:08,830
would be a cusp of Capricorn and

1048
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:11,560
Sagittarius so you see how there's

1049
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:15,490
mixing the understanding of astrology

1050
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:19,140
and constellations into these stories

1051
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:22,090
because the Sun is born between those

1052
00:55:27,630 --> 00:55:25,660
two things now another interesting point

1053
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:27,640
is where you bring up the virgin birth

1054
00:55:32,020 --> 00:55:30,970
well Virg it the virgin going back into

1055
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:32,030
ancient times

1056
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:36,090
was Virgo the constellation Virgo which

1057
00:55:42,590 --> 00:55:39,930
translates to also virgin all right

1058
00:55:47,410 --> 00:55:42,600
where was okay so it at this moment

1059
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:47,420
where we've got the Three Magi right all

1060
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:52,050
following the star which is what they

1061
00:55:57,140 --> 00:55:54,330
were doing heading towards Bethlem but

1062
00:56:00,620 --> 00:55:57,150
it's Orion's belt but the three kings

1063
00:56:04,370 --> 00:56:00,630
are following serious the star Bethlem

1064
00:56:08,410 --> 00:56:04,380
the star in the east and all of this is

1065
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:08,420
to locate Jesus or the birth of the Sun

1066
00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:12,300
which is happening on December 25th

1067
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:14,940
right now all of that makes sense and

1068
00:56:20,450 --> 00:56:18,090
you can see where the allegory comes

1069
00:56:24,650 --> 00:56:20,460
into play here certainly across cultures

1070
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:24,660
but where is Virgo in the in the night

1071
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:28,609
sky when all of this is taking place

1072
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:35,130
remember the Sun is born from the virgin

1073
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:37,500
okay this is this an important saying

1074
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:42,750
it's born of the virgin right the

1075
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:43,710
equinox

1076
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:49,920
of September 22nd is in the sign of

1077
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:52,890
Virgo the virgin and this is the time of

1078
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:57,090
the year that the Sun or the day and the

1079
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:01,520
night is completely equal so after

1080
00:57:09,890 --> 00:57:06,240
December sorry after September 22nd this

1081
00:57:14,620 --> 00:57:09,900
is when the Sun descends into the

1082
00:57:18,770 --> 00:57:14,630
underworld so this is the coming back up

1083
00:57:22,970 --> 00:57:18,780
after December 25th

1084
00:57:25,099 --> 00:57:22,980
so it's born the actual Sun starts to go

1085
00:57:28,940 --> 00:57:25,109
below the date or the nights become

1086
00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:28,950
longer after September 22nd Virgo born a

1087
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:31,260
virgin and then it starts to rise up

1088
00:57:37,970 --> 00:57:34,260
again after December 25th and this is

1089
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:37,980
how the connection of the Virgin plays

1090
00:57:43,220 --> 00:57:41,160
into the birth of the Sun now when we

1091
00:57:45,130 --> 00:57:43,230
look back that we brought up Horus we

1092
00:57:48,190 --> 00:57:45,140
talked about had a son Krishna

1093
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:48,200
and Dionysus and mithra and and others

1094
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:53,930
right there there are around 30 of these

1095
00:58:01,920 --> 00:57:56,570
figures that cross cultures and

1096
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:01,930
civilizations do each one of these

1097
00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:04,910
stories let's just let's just go with

1098
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:10,780
that does each one of these stories fit

1099
00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:13,790
the constellations in serious and

1100
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:16,990
Orion's belt and and the Virgin Mary

1101
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:22,090
Virgo is this what everybody was seeing

1102
00:58:29,110 --> 00:58:25,610
from what I've been researching this is

1103
00:58:32,170 --> 00:58:29,120
exactly it it's cross-cultural talking

1104
00:58:34,330 --> 00:58:32,180
about solar ancient solar religions and

1105
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:34,340
the reason why the solar religions were

1106
00:58:39,310 --> 00:58:36,940
so important again it was life and death

1107
00:58:41,350 --> 00:58:39,320
for these ancient people they needed to

1108
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:41,360
know the cycles when to plant the seeds

1109
00:58:48,790 --> 00:58:45,410
went to harvest it was all tied into

1110
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:48,800
these dates and they they knew that they

1111
00:58:53,950 --> 00:58:52,400
could mark the sky and this is why you

1112
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,960
have a lot of stone circles in ancient

1113
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:55,760
periods as they were marking the

1114
00:59:00,160 --> 00:58:58,160
calendar of the sky so they could know

1115
00:59:03,850 --> 00:59:00,170
about the precession of the equinoxes

1116
00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:03,860
and the procession of the solstices so

1117
00:59:10,450 --> 00:59:07,640
that all of these things would keep

1118
00:59:12,970 --> 00:59:10,460
society moving forward because without

1119
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:12,980
that knowledge they would basically

1120
00:59:20,250 --> 00:59:15,680
starve to death and that's what Sun

1121
00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:20,260
worship actually was right it's the Sun

1122
00:59:25,810 --> 00:59:23,390
through the summer fall spring it

1123
00:59:29,350 --> 00:59:25,820
doesn't matter when the Sun is up in the

1124
00:59:31,930 --> 00:59:29,360
sky there is life right and you know

1125
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:31,940
that you can exist for another day you

1126
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:33,770
have to get through the night

1127
00:59:39,730 --> 00:59:37,370
alright the darkness and and get to the

1128
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:39,740
next day where the Sun is back and

1129
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,760
everybody is safe that's that's the

1130
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,160
bottom line here yeah that is actually

1131
00:59:52,180 --> 00:59:49,520
the most important thing because we had

1132
00:59:54,940 --> 00:59:52,190
to explain it in the terms of life and

1133
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:54,950
death and when we look at the Sun going

1134
00:59:58,670 --> 00:59:58,010
to the underground we had stories back

1135
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:58,680
in Egypt

1136
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:01,440
of basically Horace and Osiris going

1137
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:04,710
into the underworld you know battling

1138
01:00:10,430 --> 01:00:07,370
set and all these other things and

1139
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:10,440
basically it was a Knightly thing so the

1140
01:00:15,470 --> 01:00:12,510
the battle of light and dark was won

1141
01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:15,480
every single morning when that sunrise

1142
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:18,870
again it was like the beginning of the

1143
01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:22,410
world and at night it was the end of the

1144
01:00:26,930 --> 01:00:24,390
world so they struggled to say will the

1145
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:26,940
Sun come back up because if the Sun

1146
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:30,810
actually never comes back up everything

1147
01:00:37,850 --> 01:00:33,290
will be lost all life would be lost here

1148
01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:37,860
so this is why the Sun is the main I

1149
01:00:44,270 --> 01:00:41,220
would say the main Godhead of worship in

1150
01:00:46,790 --> 01:00:44,280
ancient times because it literally kept

1151
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:46,800
everybody alive and this is also where

1152
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:49,500
we get the stories and myths of the

1153
01:00:56,810 --> 01:00:54,930
light versus the dark and the the one of

1154
01:01:01,370 --> 01:00:56,820
the crucial things here because we're

1155
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:01,380
looking at our language of today and and

1156
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:06,030
the word Sun not only with the Sun that

1157
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:09,870
is at the center of our solar system but

1158
01:01:16,850 --> 01:01:12,930
of our children and the pronunciation of

1159
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:16,860
it and that the way that we say Sun and

1160
01:01:24,620 --> 01:01:20,130
the birth of the Sun we are now using

1161
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:24,630
that word in relation to Jesus right and

1162
01:01:33,350 --> 01:01:29,730
and the Sun being born on this day is

1163
01:01:36,290 --> 01:01:33,360
there any any incorrectness

1164
01:01:40,250 --> 01:01:36,300
about this with the word Sun over the

1165
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:40,260
years or what I'm getting at is back in

1166
01:01:45,290 --> 01:01:43,050
ancient times certainly through

1167
01:01:47,470 --> 01:01:45,300
throughout ancient Egypt and Persia and

1168
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:47,480
an Asia and around the world in India

1169
01:01:58,550 --> 01:01:51,870
the was the word that was used for Sun

1170
01:02:01,790 --> 01:01:58,560
also used for a male Sun your child yeah

1171
01:02:05,090 --> 01:02:01,800
and also you have to remember in the

1172
01:02:06,650 --> 01:02:05,100
Bible they actually use the word

1173
01:02:09,110 --> 01:02:06,660
entertain they use the word

1174
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:09,120
interchangeably so sometimes they'll use

1175
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:12,330
it s UN to explain the Son of God

1176
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:15,870
or they will have it s o n but also you

1177
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:17,010
have to remember this

1178
01:02:23,810 --> 01:02:19,460
the ancient Bible like that came from

1179
01:02:26,420 --> 01:02:23,820
Roman times was called Helio Biblia all

1180
01:02:29,690 --> 01:02:26,430
right and later you know in art language

1181
01:02:32,890 --> 01:02:29,700
we call it holy bible so Helio biblia is

1182
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:32,900
the original term for the Holy Bible and

1183
01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:38,610
Helio his son has the word son so it's

1184
01:02:45,350 --> 01:02:41,870
the son Bible that's the actual ancient

1185
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:45,360
translation to the book and what do we

1186
01:02:52,220 --> 01:02:50,010
do with the the pagan side of all of

1187
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:52,230
this certainly we've talked about Egypt

1188
01:02:59,320 --> 01:02:56,130
and Persia and Greece and and what was

1189
01:03:02,810 --> 01:02:59,330
going down in Bethlehem and Jerusalem

1190
01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:02,820
but but what about the pagan side of

1191
01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:05,670
these rituals because we have Stonehenge

1192
01:03:12,980 --> 01:03:09,240
that is lined up on these very same

1193
01:03:16,970 --> 01:03:12,990
dates is is there cross-pollination

1194
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:16,980
there too as well well I would say that

1195
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:19,770
the Christmas that we celebrate today is

1196
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:22,890
a coming together of traditions from all

1197
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:25,050
over the world because when people get

1198
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:27,680
together it's kind of like this hybrid

1199
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:30,090
tradition that we just call kind of all

1200
01:03:35,210 --> 01:03:32,400
except and this is what's happened with

1201
01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:35,220
Christmas because how do you get Santa

1202
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:38,100
how do you get the reindeers how do you

1203
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:40,250
get the tree how do you give presents

1204
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:44,130
from the original story of the manger

1205
01:03:50,540 --> 01:03:46,170
and baby Jesus how where is that

1206
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:50,550
connection from Christmas to that now

1207
01:04:00,260 --> 01:03:55,740
and going back to a Horus and the story

1208
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:00,270
behind Horus there is so much of it that

1209
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:05,910
is exactly the same as the Jesus story

1210
01:04:12,130 --> 01:04:08,640
the baby Jesus story now we understand

1211
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:12,140
that it's probably

1212
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:15,090
astrologically based right which makes a

1213
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:15,990
lot of sense

1214
01:04:22,310 --> 01:04:20,400
but if if Christians or other religions

1215
01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:22,320
around the world look at the story of

1216
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:25,740
Horus and see the similarities

1217
01:04:31,570 --> 01:04:28,290
why isn't anybody talking about this and

1218
01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:31,580
and and presenting this as the origin

1219
01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:35,460
for for everything and not only a you

1220
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:38,670
know with the Stars but with Horace's

1221
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:41,490
story which goes back three four five

1222
01:04:48,170 --> 01:04:45,930
six seven eight thousand years well

1223
01:04:52,190 --> 01:04:48,180
you've had guests on the show quite

1224
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:52,200
recently that even verified that most of

1225
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:53,760
the religions today especially the

1226
01:05:00,609 --> 01:04:55,920
judeo-christian religion actually came

1227
01:05:03,290 --> 01:05:00,619
out of Egyptian stories in religion and

1228
01:05:08,450 --> 01:05:03,300
this is from what I've research is

1229
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:08,460
completely accurate and this is why well

1230
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:09,599
I'll just say this is from my own

1231
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:12,660
experience is you know growing up Jewish

1232
01:05:17,329 --> 01:05:15,240
we have Passover and you know if in

1233
01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:17,339
Christianity Passover is the Last Supper

1234
01:05:24,589 --> 01:05:21,300
of Jesus it's the same holiday and in

1235
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:24,599
Passover we read a book that basically

1236
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:28,530
tells you how evil Egypt is and that we

1237
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,510
never should research Egypt we should

1238
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:35,460
never look into Egypt because it was

1239
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:37,710
evil we were slaves and we got out of

1240
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:42,330
there and basically in judeo-christian

1241
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:45,680
religion it's it's kind of naughty

1242
01:05:51,970 --> 01:05:48,480
Christmas terms it's kind of naughty to

1243
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:51,980
actually look back into ancient Egyptian

1244
01:06:00,079 --> 01:05:56,130
anything not one of those well ok bed

1245
01:06:03,290 --> 01:06:00,089
before we hit this next break the twelve

1246
01:06:04,450 --> 01:06:03,300
disciples or followers where did this

1247
01:06:09,650 --> 01:06:04,460
come from

1248
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:09,660
it's the twelve constellations no and

1249
01:06:17,530 --> 01:06:14,070
yes in fact in ancient artwork with

1250
01:06:21,620 --> 01:06:17,540
Mithra in ancient artwork with Jesus

1251
01:06:24,829 --> 01:06:21,630
he's usually in the center of the zodiac

1252
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:24,839
with the twelve disciples around him

1253
01:06:30,589 --> 01:06:28,530
which are sometimes there are the

1254
01:06:33,380 --> 01:06:30,599
animals of the constellations sometimes

1255
01:06:35,540 --> 01:06:33,390
they are people and even the Last Supper

1256
01:06:38,970 --> 01:06:35,550
of Jesus the painting from Leonardo da

1257
01:06:43,019 --> 01:06:38,980
Vinci shows the 12 disciples and

1258
01:06:46,170 --> 01:06:43,029
the son of God Jesus in the center again

1259
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:46,180
of the constellations going around the

1260
01:06:51,329 --> 01:06:47,529
precession of the equinoxes

1261
01:06:54,569 --> 01:06:51,339
now for some is this heresy right is

1262
01:06:58,500 --> 01:06:54,579
this blasphemous is this just going down

1263
01:07:04,319 --> 01:06:58,510
the wrong road probably a hundred

1264
01:07:08,099 --> 01:07:04,329
percent but I mean it doesn't negate the

1265
01:07:11,940 --> 01:07:08,109
fact that these astronomical alignments

1266
01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:11,950
and these stories go beyond Christianity

1267
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:14,740
and was there before Christianity and it

1268
01:07:21,509 --> 01:07:18,130
will be there after Christianity it's

1269
01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:21,519
just the way that it is you know and

1270
01:07:27,289 --> 01:07:24,609
that's we have to look at it that way

1271
01:07:30,359 --> 01:07:27,299
there isn't any other way to do it and

1272
01:07:32,759 --> 01:07:30,369
so with that let's take let's take

1273
01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:32,769
another break right here this is fade to

1274
01:07:37,650 --> 01:07:35,380
black tonight is our merry quit miss

1275
01:07:42,110 --> 01:07:37,660
especially then when we come back we're

1276
01:08:19,390 --> 01:08:16,690
[Music]

1277
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:19,400
[Applause]

1278
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:22,410
all right welcome back fade to black

1279
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:26,400
I am your host Jimmy Church tonight is

1280
01:08:31,940 --> 01:08:29,370
our Mary quickness special event with

1281
01:08:37,610 --> 01:08:31,950
Jason quit live from the great white

1282
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:37,620
north of Toronto and Jason this is all

1283
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:40,799
this is all great and I know for a lot

1284
01:08:45,770 --> 01:08:43,250
of folks out there it's a it's a it's

1285
01:08:48,260 --> 01:08:45,780
truly a revelation and they hear this

1286
01:08:50,570 --> 01:08:48,270
kind of stuff and and they go well it

1287
01:08:52,910 --> 01:08:50,580
can't be it can't be you know and that's

1288
01:08:55,970 --> 01:08:52,920
that's what's great it's knowledge go

1289
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:55,980
and research it and and see what you

1290
01:09:00,320 --> 01:08:58,560
find out on your own and and I think

1291
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:00,330
that's the funnest part about doing this

1292
01:09:07,099 --> 01:09:04,319
show like this yes and it's not actually

1293
01:09:09,050 --> 01:09:07,109
to negate the Bible at all it's actually

1294
01:09:11,140 --> 01:09:09,060
showing that there's an incredible

1295
01:09:15,050 --> 01:09:11,150
amount of wealth and knowledge in that

1296
01:09:16,610 --> 01:09:15,060
text that huge amount I know it's there

1297
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:16,620
I couldn't agree with you more

1298
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:19,890
and now let's let's shift gears a little

1299
01:09:31,610 --> 01:09:28,670
bit let's get into Santa Claus now I I

1300
01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:31,620
remember I'm gonna what I'm about to say

1301
01:09:36,890 --> 01:09:33,420
everybody has gone through the exact

1302
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:36,900
same thing I'm not I'm not discovering

1303
01:09:42,349 --> 01:09:40,290
anything here but I remember when I was

1304
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:42,359
first told that Santa Claus wasn't real

1305
01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:47,580
I was crushed I was crushed I used to

1306
01:09:54,620 --> 01:09:51,960
look at our fireplaces right with the

1307
01:09:57,860 --> 01:09:54,630
stockings hanging on it and would just

1308
01:10:00,910 --> 01:09:57,870
sit and wonder how Santa Claus got down

1309
01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:00,920
the chimney and and into our living room

1310
01:10:07,310 --> 01:10:04,080
how he would do all of this in one night

1311
01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:07,320
how he would go all around the world and

1312
01:10:12,650 --> 01:10:09,150
I would think about this at the age of

1313
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:12,660
two three four and five and six and and

1314
01:10:20,780 --> 01:10:15,930
I was okay with it I was I questioned it

1315
01:10:22,670 --> 01:10:20,790
but but that was cool with it too at the

1316
01:10:26,150 --> 01:10:22,680
same time and did you go through the

1317
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:26,160
same things as a kid no because growing

1318
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:28,290
up we always knew that Santa wasn't real

1319
01:10:35,899 --> 01:10:33,090
just imaginary but I also

1320
01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:35,909
of going to get pictures taken with the

1321
01:10:39,740 --> 01:10:36,900
mall Santa

1322
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:39,750
I love doing that and I loved receiving

1323
01:10:47,180 --> 01:10:43,770
presents so for me I didn't really I

1324
01:10:49,220 --> 01:10:47,190
didn't really think deep at all about

1325
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:49,230
Santa Claus I just always knew it was a

1326
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:51,690
guy with a beat with a fake beer or real

1327
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,250
beard but not real are you suggesting

1328
01:10:57,169 --> 01:10:55,440
that you were going around at the age of

1329
01:11:00,500 --> 01:10:57,179
five to all of your five-year-old

1330
01:11:05,979 --> 01:11:00,510
friends and going Santa's not real of

1331
01:11:08,839 --> 01:11:05,989
course I know you were breaking hearts I

1332
01:11:11,209 --> 01:11:08,849
was always you want to know what reality

1333
01:11:17,169 --> 01:11:11,219
is you're not in it that Santa Claus is

1334
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,179
not real buddy man man I am I remember

1335
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:20,400
and Rita's gonna have to remind me of

1336
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:23,520
this I don't know which one of our

1337
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:26,730
daughters told the other one first I do

1338
01:11:33,109 --> 01:11:30,480
remember one of them Rita you need to

1339
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:33,119
remind me one of them came running into

1340
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:38,580
the living room so so just said Santa

1341
01:11:45,169 --> 01:11:40,530
wasn't real and I'm talking about a

1342
01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:45,179
broken heart it was a harsh day for us

1343
01:11:49,570 --> 01:11:47,820
to go through his parents and and I

1344
01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:49,580
didn't want I knew it was gonna happen

1345
01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:53,340
the living vicariously through our kids

1346
01:11:57,470 --> 01:11:55,500
living through Christmas and the

1347
01:11:59,660 --> 01:11:57,480
stockings and the trees and the and the

1348
01:12:02,060 --> 01:11:59,670
presents and all of that was one of the

1349
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:02,070
funnest times for me as a parent going

1350
01:12:07,899 --> 01:12:04,770
through that and then having to address

1351
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:07,909
the Santa is indeed not real

1352
01:12:12,859 --> 01:12:10,110
conversation with our kids it was it was

1353
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:12,869
heartbreaking to go through I don't know

1354
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:15,210
why they do that because it is

1355
01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:16,710
heartbreaking and it's almost like a

1356
01:12:20,589 --> 01:12:19,020
loss when you find out something is not

1357
01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:20,599
real it's like you've been lied to

1358
01:12:26,379 --> 01:12:23,550
I don't think that's fair to a child oh

1359
01:12:30,169 --> 01:12:26,389
no oh I think it's totally fair

1360
01:12:36,379 --> 01:12:30,179
absolutely I do and let me tell you why

1361
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:36,389
because I enjoyed that magic I did I

1362
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:40,320
enjoyed it finding out that Santa wasn't

1363
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:43,320
real although I was crushed it doesn't

1364
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:45,810
negate all those warm Christmases that I

1365
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:46,320
had me

1366
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:48,810
or that and I wanted to make sure that I

1367
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:52,110
instilled in my children and I did that

1368
01:12:58,820 --> 01:12:56,640
very same magic and and and that one day

1369
01:13:01,670 --> 01:12:58,830
I would have to have the Santa is not

1370
01:13:03,860 --> 01:13:01,680
real conversation but that's okay

1371
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:03,870
because it's such a warm part of my

1372
01:13:08,690 --> 01:13:06,210
childhood and I think that at most would

1373
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:08,700
agree with me humbug

1374
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:14,010
Jason quit miss what I'm saying is this

1375
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,000
is that yes the tradition of Christmas

1376
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:20,400
is actually is absolutely magical and

1377
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:22,110
absolutely you should spend it with the

1378
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:25,530
children and go through that but you

1379
01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:27,330
know to then go through the loss of

1380
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:29,340
saying that it's not real I mean why

1381
01:13:34,370 --> 01:13:32,340
have that aspect in that I know I know I

1382
01:13:37,580 --> 01:13:34,380
know it's part of growing up

1383
01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:37,590
now I agree I and and I would say that

1384
01:13:41,690 --> 01:13:39,030
for the most part it's not going to

1385
01:13:44,810 --> 01:13:41,700
change it you know I think these

1386
01:13:48,530 --> 01:13:44,820
traditions are so strong and they're fun

1387
01:13:51,410 --> 01:13:48,540
oh yeah you know they are fun that

1388
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:51,420
there's nothing cooler than going

1389
01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:55,650
through a toy store or or anything in

1390
01:14:01,940 --> 01:13:59,400
the middle of summer and having to say

1391
01:14:04,580 --> 01:14:01,950
to your two-year-old a three-year-old

1392
01:14:06,170 --> 01:14:04,590
your for you know okay put it on your

1393
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:06,180
Christmas list and maybe Santa will

1394
01:14:12,650 --> 01:14:09,480
bring it to you you know and keeping

1395
01:14:16,490 --> 01:14:12,660
your children in line so there you go

1396
01:14:18,860 --> 01:14:16,500
that's my taking a stick it to it now

1397
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:18,870
let's get to Santa Claus known as father

1398
01:14:27,410 --> 01:14:22,290
Christmas Saint Nicholas st. Nick Kris

1399
01:14:29,810 --> 01:14:27,420
Kringle or simply Santa the origins of

1400
01:14:32,210 --> 01:14:29,820
all of this what have you found out I've

1401
01:14:37,250 --> 01:14:32,220
got I've got my side of the story that

1402
01:14:39,740 --> 01:14:37,260
that I'll reveal okay so we've been

1403
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:39,750
talking some pretty crazy things that a

1404
01:14:43,820 --> 01:14:41,820
lot of people haven't heard yet so now

1405
01:14:48,850 --> 01:14:43,830
we're really gonna go off the deep end

1406
01:14:53,180 --> 01:14:48,860
okay so everybody bear with me on these

1407
01:14:56,690 --> 01:14:53,190
route yeah just bear with me anyways we

1408
01:15:00,089 --> 01:14:56,700
Santa Clauses supposedly based off of

1409
01:15:04,620 --> 01:15:00,099
st. Nicholas who was a

1410
01:15:06,629 --> 01:15:04,630
what is modern-day turkey but he

1411
01:15:08,819 --> 01:15:06,639
interests like Santa Claus he's just

1412
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:08,829
known as being very joyous and generous

1413
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:12,130
and happy and very charitable that's

1414
01:15:19,470 --> 01:15:16,480
what st. Nicholas is known for but I

1415
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:19,480
think the true story of Santa Claus and

1416
01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:22,210
the Santa Claus that we're accustomed to

1417
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:24,310
the vision and the depiction of Santa

1418
01:15:29,879 --> 01:15:26,710
Claus is from the North Pole and these

1419
01:15:33,839 --> 01:15:29,889
these ideas actually come from northern

1420
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:33,849
shamanic traditions of tribes that lived

1421
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:37,570
and populated around Siberia which is

1422
01:15:44,669 --> 01:15:42,130
Russia and northern Europe no honey okay

1423
01:15:47,879 --> 01:15:44,679
keep going keep going I need to start

1424
01:15:50,459 --> 01:15:47,889
taking some notes because remember what

1425
01:15:53,370 --> 01:15:50,469
I said is that like as we start to merge

1426
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:53,380
traditions we get these overlays as

1427
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:56,170
hybrid tradition from different cultures

1428
01:16:01,950 --> 01:15:58,570
that are coming together and many people

1429
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:01,960
in North America and in Europe they they

1430
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:04,960
came from Europe they came from Europe

1431
01:16:10,370 --> 01:16:06,310
they brought those traditions from

1432
01:16:13,770 --> 01:16:10,380
different places like Germany and Poland

1433
01:16:17,780 --> 01:16:13,780
Britain they came with these stories or

1434
01:16:22,290 --> 01:16:17,790
these traditions so if you look at the

1435
01:16:25,890 --> 01:16:22,300
shamans from Siberia they actually

1436
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:25,900
dressed in the same garb as what Santa

1437
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:30,480
Claus where's that red type of uniform I

1438
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:33,520
looked at I looked at the oldest picture

1439
01:16:39,149 --> 01:16:37,090
of Saint Nick that I could find and he

1440
01:16:41,580 --> 01:16:39,159
was dressed in red and white and he also

1441
01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:41,590
had a little gray beard going on too as

1442
01:16:50,129 --> 01:16:46,750
well no I'm being serious now yeah but

1443
01:16:57,839 --> 01:16:50,139
he was also skinny right he's not the

1444
01:17:01,050 --> 01:16:57,849
jolly rotund Saint Nick that we know

1445
01:17:04,530 --> 01:17:01,060
today but you can look at it you could

1446
01:17:07,290 --> 01:17:04,540
see the foundations of where the imagery

1447
01:17:09,450 --> 01:17:07,300
would come for father Christmas today

1448
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:09,460
because it was red and white and he did

1449
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:10,330
have a

1450
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:14,410
a very definite white beard and I want

1451
01:17:22,770 --> 01:17:16,810
you to remember those colors red and

1452
01:17:27,410 --> 01:17:22,780
white you're gonna hate okay so not only

1453
01:17:30,150 --> 01:17:27,420
did those shamans wear similar clothing

1454
01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:30,160
but they also heard it and worked with

1455
01:17:38,190 --> 01:17:35,200
reindeer now okay hold on for a second

1456
01:17:41,730 --> 01:17:38,200
did you say this st. Nick was from

1457
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:41,740
Turkey yes it was from Turkey okay yeah

1458
01:17:46,530 --> 01:17:44,410
st. from Turkey okay widget but well

1459
01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:46,540
that was before Turkey obviously so

1460
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:51,100
Armenia okay oh there's another twist

1461
01:18:00,030 --> 01:17:54,400
because this was fourth century right

1462
01:18:04,770 --> 01:18:00,040
then we're talking 16 17 maybe 18

1463
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:04,780
hundred years ago yes this was pre

1464
01:18:12,180 --> 01:18:09,010
Turkey wow that's very interesting Rita

1465
01:18:14,850 --> 01:18:12,190
just leaned forward and went I didn't

1466
01:18:16,740 --> 01:18:14,860
know that and then she's gonna wrap this

1467
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:16,750
up with everything started in Armenia

1468
01:18:24,030 --> 01:18:20,050
including Santa Claus but yeah I didn't

1469
01:18:25,650 --> 01:18:24,040
know this okay and let me just describe

1470
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:25,660
a little bit of what shamanism is

1471
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:27,370
because it's also part of my background

1472
01:18:33,650 --> 01:18:30,460
and shamanism is a way of life that

1473
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:33,660
looks at nature as part of oneself and

1474
01:18:38,970 --> 01:18:36,730
the shaman uses nature through rituals

1475
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:38,980
and techniques to discover the God

1476
01:18:42,300 --> 01:18:39,730
within

1477
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:42,310
right and the unbreakable connection to

1478
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:44,410
the universe around them so that's what

1479
01:18:52,340 --> 01:18:50,770
a shaman is basically and okay so now

1480
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:52,350
we're gonna get into other symbology

1481
01:18:59,850 --> 01:18:56,560
which is the trees why the trees and why

1482
01:19:02,060 --> 01:18:59,860
why presents under the tree is where do

1483
01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:02,070
we get this tradition of a tree and

1484
01:19:10,050 --> 01:19:05,380
presence where do we get the tradition

1485
01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:10,060
of the tree in presence Jason okay well

1486
01:19:18,030 --> 01:19:14,920
these these shamans would send their

1487
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:18,040
children out into the woods to look

1488
01:19:25,690 --> 01:19:22,010
under coniferous trees for prez

1489
01:19:28,570 --> 01:19:25,700
and what are these presents what grows

1490
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:28,580
under these trees is a type of mushroom

1491
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:32,330
that is red and white shadow and it's

1492
01:19:37,540 --> 01:19:34,970
called the Amenti a mascara or the fly a

1493
01:19:39,850 --> 01:19:37,550
gret and every single person listening

1494
01:19:42,910 --> 01:19:39,860
knows what I'm talking about because

1495
01:19:45,190 --> 01:19:42,920
this mushroom is featured in almost all

1496
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:45,200
your Christmas cards that's right and in

1497
01:19:51,340 --> 01:19:48,320
all the fairy tale pictures they always

1498
01:19:54,190 --> 01:19:51,350
place these mushrooms it's a bright red

1499
01:19:57,010 --> 01:19:54,200
cap mushroom and it has these kind of

1500
01:19:59,440 --> 01:19:57,020
like white horns or spots on the top of

1501
01:20:02,760 --> 01:19:59,450
it I always thought it was just festive

1502
01:20:06,670 --> 01:20:02,770
looking and that it was artistic license

1503
01:20:09,190 --> 01:20:06,680
but this is all found this is this is

1504
01:20:09,820 --> 01:20:09,200
part of a you know nature this actually

1505
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:09,830
happened

1506
01:20:14,170 --> 01:20:12,560
it's actually happens and this is where

1507
01:20:16,890 --> 01:20:14,180
you find these mushrooms because these

1508
01:20:20,110 --> 01:20:16,900
mushrooms have a symbiotic relationship

1509
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:20,120
to these coniferous trees like pine

1510
01:20:27,190 --> 01:20:23,270
trees so they need the root system of

1511
01:20:29,770 --> 01:20:27,200
pines to actually grow and another thing

1512
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:29,780
you know I'll just say it what a

1513
01:20:33,850 --> 01:20:31,970
mushroom is is actually the sex organ of

1514
01:20:38,380 --> 01:20:33,860
mycelium which is under the ground

1515
01:20:40,330 --> 01:20:38,390
so you're basically looking at the sex a

1516
01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:40,340
mushroom is the sex organ of the

1517
01:20:52,270 --> 01:20:46,550
mushroom so so the traditional Christmas

1518
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:52,280
colors right the capitalistic the

1519
01:20:57,780 --> 01:20:54,530
Christmas cards the colors the houses

1520
01:21:01,180 --> 01:20:57,790
the lights the red and white everywhere

1521
01:21:04,810 --> 01:21:01,190
is because of mushrooms that were found

1522
01:21:06,610 --> 01:21:04,820
under pine trees in Siberia it's not

1523
01:21:08,830 --> 01:21:06,620
just Siberia it's the northern

1524
01:21:11,050 --> 01:21:08,840
hemisphere right right right right

1525
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:11,060
so this is you could even find it here

1526
01:21:18,460 --> 01:21:14,170
in Canada and obviously in the US and

1527
01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:18,470
another amazing point is these mushrooms

1528
01:21:24,850 --> 01:21:23,060
are a delicacy for reindeers we're gonna

1529
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:24,860
get to we're gonna get to the reindeer

1530
01:21:33,310 --> 01:21:28,090
in a second this is fascinating and the

1531
01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:33,320
the the how do I say this the

1532
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:34,860
cross-pollination

1533
01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:38,690
of Santa Claus or modern Santa Claus

1534
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:41,880
which all of it came from the tradition

1535
01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:44,489
surrounding the historical st. Nick

1536
01:21:53,959 --> 01:21:51,750
right from Armenia that that went over

1537
01:21:57,379 --> 01:21:53,969
to the British figure of father

1538
01:22:02,720 --> 01:21:57,389
Christmas and then we have the Dutch

1539
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:02,730
version which is Sinterklaas based

1540
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:07,250
directly on st. Nicholas himself the

1541
01:22:13,939 --> 01:22:10,110
father Christmas the British version

1542
01:22:16,580 --> 01:22:13,949
dates as far back as the 16th century in

1543
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:16,590
England during the reign of King Henry

1544
01:22:25,220 --> 01:22:20,730
the 8th and back then he was pictured as

1545
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:25,230
this is where the change came he started

1546
01:22:30,290 --> 01:22:27,210
to become big you know a little bit

1547
01:22:32,990 --> 01:22:30,300
overweight little you know well-fed but

1548
01:22:36,140 --> 01:22:33,000
he was dressed in green why was that

1549
01:22:37,250 --> 01:22:36,150
version of st. Nick father Christmas

1550
01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:37,260
Santa Claus

1551
01:22:44,419 --> 01:22:41,460
why was he dressed in green it might be

1552
01:22:47,299 --> 01:22:44,429
to represent the evergreen hmm which is

1553
01:22:50,299 --> 01:22:47,309
the promise forever left everlasting

1554
01:22:53,540 --> 01:22:50,309
life now if you and I'll just stick with

1555
01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:53,550
this saw right here if you're looking

1556
01:23:02,000 --> 01:22:58,730
into symbols the symbols of eternal life

1557
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:02,010
it's all over ancient times

1558
01:23:08,990 --> 01:23:06,000
even back in Sumeria you would have the

1559
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:09,000
Tree of Life which was the symbol of

1560
01:23:14,209 --> 01:23:11,760
eternal life and even in Sumeria you see

1561
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:14,219
these guys with like holding pine cones

1562
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:17,130
and they had these water vessels and

1563
01:23:24,410 --> 01:23:20,010
these are ancient symbols of fertility

1564
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:24,420
and everlasting life it had because the

1565
01:23:28,970 --> 01:23:26,730
reason why these trees were so important

1566
01:23:30,609 --> 01:23:28,980
not only did they have these presence

1567
01:23:35,209 --> 01:23:30,619
and and these things growing

1568
01:23:39,049 --> 01:23:35,219
symbiotically with these trees but these

1569
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:39,059
trees survived all the seasons where all

1570
01:23:43,930 --> 01:23:42,179
the other tree's have like a life and a

1571
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:43,940
death where the leaves fall off right

1572
01:23:48,710 --> 01:23:48,239
this tree survives everything so it was

1573
01:23:52,570 --> 01:23:48,720
given

1574
01:23:55,730 --> 01:23:52,580
symbol of the symbol of eternal life and

1575
01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:55,740
even in Christianity if you look at the

1576
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:58,770
Pope's staff if you look at the statues

1577
01:24:06,020 --> 01:24:01,520
and even the paintings at the Vatican

1578
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:06,030
there is lots of pinecones depicted in

1579
01:24:13,190 --> 01:24:10,290
these scenes at the Vatican and many

1580
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:13,200
people believe they talk about the the

1581
01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:15,840
pinecone is the third eye right which is

1582
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:19,260
possible but it's also a symbol of

1583
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:21,570
eternal life it's always it's all it's a

1584
01:24:27,140 --> 01:24:24,210
symbol of this tree of life which is

1585
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:27,150
this color green and this is why we have

1586
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:30,480
green red and white and what about the

1587
01:24:35,930 --> 01:24:32,730
some of these other traditions that

1588
01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:35,940
started back then when all of this was

1589
01:24:41,060 --> 01:24:38,190
kicking off we're talking hundreds and

1590
01:24:44,860 --> 01:24:41,070
hundreds of years ago and it was the

1591
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:44,870
aspect for children you have a choice

1592
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:49,410
naughty or nice right and and somebody

1593
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,410
out there and I always related this back

1594
01:24:55,820 --> 01:24:54,480
to God right God knows everything he

1595
01:24:57,500 --> 01:24:55,830
knows when you've been good he knows

1596
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:57,510
when you've been bad he's always taking

1597
01:24:59,570 --> 01:24:57,840
notes

1598
01:25:01,700 --> 01:24:59,580
he knows everything there's nothing you

1599
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:01,710
can't do where you you're not gonna get

1600
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:05,250
caught so you got to behave this same

1601
01:25:11,900 --> 01:25:09,840
thing spilled over into Christmas with

1602
01:25:16,190 --> 01:25:11,910
children and you have a choice to be

1603
01:25:20,930 --> 01:25:16,200
naughty or nice and was this put into

1604
01:25:23,150 --> 01:25:20,940
place - just like the masses all right

1605
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:23,160
with the rest of the world to keep your

1606
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:26,130
children in order right

1607
01:25:32,810 --> 01:25:30,000
when did these traditions start I don't

1608
01:25:36,020 --> 01:25:32,820
know exactly the time that they started

1609
01:25:38,510 --> 01:25:36,030
but it is kind of in a sense programming

1610
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:38,520
for the future I would say you know play

1611
01:25:44,210 --> 01:25:40,410
by the rules or you're not going to get

1612
01:25:47,930 --> 01:25:44,220
benefits but then when you get into like

1613
01:25:51,170 --> 01:25:47,940
the European northern hemisphere of

1614
01:25:53,950 --> 01:25:51,180
these traditions then you start getting

1615
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:53,960
these other strange things like Krampus

1616
01:25:58,490 --> 01:25:57,090
you know if you're naughty Krampus is

1617
01:26:01,640 --> 01:25:58,500
gonna come and taste you which is a

1618
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:01,650
brief frightening thing to tell your

1619
01:26:07,610 --> 01:26:02,489
children right

1620
01:26:12,490 --> 01:26:07,620
well there was another which is schmaltz

1621
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:12,500
Lee schmaltz Lee was Santa Clauses

1622
01:26:22,940 --> 01:26:18,000
assistant in in the swiss-german region

1623
01:26:25,570 --> 01:26:22,950
of Europe and and he would he was you

1624
01:26:30,979 --> 01:26:25,580
know he was the number one elf right

1625
01:26:35,870 --> 01:26:30,989
mostly and this cat would carry a twig

1626
01:26:39,290 --> 01:26:35,880
broom with him to spank the the naughty

1627
01:26:42,490 --> 01:26:39,300
children with and and the depictions of

1628
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:42,500
this this is this is entrenched

1629
01:26:50,420 --> 01:26:45,930
Christmas tradition and the threat of

1630
01:26:53,930 --> 01:26:50,430
you know small Slee smacking your kids

1631
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:53,940
around with the with a broom and this

1632
01:27:00,080 --> 01:26:57,360
this goes back again to the 16th 15th

1633
01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:00,090
century Jason do you know much you know

1634
01:27:13,790 --> 01:27:01,950
what that translates to what's the hat

1635
01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,800
that mostly translates to fatty the this

1636
01:27:20,990 --> 01:27:15,840
is this is what else this is very

1637
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,000
fascinating that Santa Claus in this

1638
01:27:27,410 --> 01:27:23,040
region during this time period was

1639
01:27:33,229 --> 01:27:27,420
called sammich Claus sammich like

1640
01:27:37,340 --> 01:27:33,239
sandwich sammich Claus Santa Claus were

1641
01:27:41,870 --> 01:27:37,350
wasn't used officially for the first

1642
01:27:45,650 --> 01:27:41,880
time until 1773 that's the earliest I

1643
01:27:50,209 --> 01:27:45,660
can find any references to it in the

1644
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:50,219
American press but 1773 was the the

1645
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:52,770
first use of Santa Claus here in the

1646
01:27:59,410 --> 01:27:54,560
United States

1647
01:28:03,320 --> 01:27:59,420
Wow and again it's like does everything

1648
01:28:05,810 --> 01:28:03,330
stem from the story of the manger and

1649
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:05,820
baby Jesus or does it stem from st.

1650
01:28:09,770 --> 01:28:08,310
Nicholas or is it a combination of all

1651
01:28:12,979 --> 01:28:09,780
these other traditions that came from

1652
01:28:14,820 --> 01:28:12,989
northern Europe plus the culture that

1653
01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:14,830
came out of meso a

1654
01:28:19,580 --> 01:28:17,260
came out of the ancient worlds I wanted

1655
01:28:24,210 --> 01:28:19,590
to ask you you spent a lot of time in in

1656
01:28:25,710 --> 01:28:24,220
the Far East and specifically Japan do

1657
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:25,720
they celebrate Christmas do they have

1658
01:28:31,650 --> 01:28:29,770
Santa Claus in Japan oh they love it but

1659
01:28:34,050 --> 01:28:31,660
and the thing that I love about Japanese

1660
01:28:39,090 --> 01:28:34,060
Christmas which I have been a couple

1661
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:39,100
times is it's very much based on the

1662
01:28:45,180 --> 01:28:41,970
traditions of the German version of

1663
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:45,190
Christmas so it's like a very German

1664
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:47,770
Christmas and they have these like

1665
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:50,230
pop-up beer so it's like you're go out

1666
01:28:56,130 --> 01:28:51,970
in the middle of the the park and they

1667
01:29:00,110 --> 01:28:56,140
have these literally like beer markets

1668
01:29:02,190 --> 01:29:00,120
with the traditional German beer and

1669
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:02,200
pretzels

1670
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:05,410
it's it's crazy like that but yes it's

1671
01:29:10,710 --> 01:29:07,210
they have Santa they have they love

1672
01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:10,720
Christmas let's let's take our break

1673
01:29:20,670 --> 01:29:13,420
right here and I'm gonna keep our

1674
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:28,000
[Music]

1675
01:29:33,100 --> 01:29:30,910
all right welcome back fade to black

1676
01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:33,110
[Music]

1677
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:39,780
but I just have to say this Christmas

1678
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:44,400
songs the chord changes the chord

1679
01:29:48,860 --> 01:29:46,010
changes that are there

1680
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:48,870
it works with heavy metal doesn't a

1681
01:30:00,680 --> 01:29:52,320
Jason it just works it fits absolutely

1682
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:00,690
why not cool man man man okay all right

1683
01:30:05,260 --> 01:30:03,210
and all of these selections I'm playing

1684
01:30:09,620 --> 01:30:05,270
tonight are from Twisted Sisters a

1685
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:09,630
Christmas album and it's it's it's it's

1686
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,290
now a classic today but you can go and

1687
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:15,840
check out everything over on youtube

1688
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:18,930
it's all over the place just so good so

1689
01:30:28,390 --> 01:30:25,050
good the the version of oh come all ye

1690
01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:28,400
faithful and the way that they do it

1691
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:30,750
we're not going to take it right there

1692
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,310
hit it is it fits it's just so good all

1693
01:30:41,980 --> 01:30:37,440
right I'm just so heavy metal doubt

1694
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:41,990
right now back to Santa Claus okay so

1695
01:30:49,580 --> 01:30:45,570
this is when you dive into the history

1696
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:49,590
of Santa Claus and you find out you know

1697
01:30:53,450 --> 01:30:51,930
these things like samich Claus and and

1698
01:30:58,910 --> 01:30:53,460
somebody just posted that I'm just

1699
01:31:02,060 --> 01:30:58,920
making stuff up now I'm not mostly is

1700
01:31:04,610 --> 01:31:02,070
real I mean and and you brought up

1701
01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:04,620
Krampus which is something I want to

1702
01:31:09,980 --> 01:31:06,710
actually discuss a little bit further

1703
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:09,990
most don't know what Krampus is is all

1704
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:12,510
about me get back into that but I

1705
01:31:16,130 --> 01:31:14,130
mentioned right before the break that

1706
01:31:19,180 --> 01:31:16,140
Santa Claus was first used in the

1707
01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:19,190
American press back in 1773

1708
01:31:27,380 --> 01:31:24,390
Santa Claus Santa Claus like the correct

1709
01:31:32,810 --> 01:31:27,390
version of it was found in Washington

1710
01:31:36,290 --> 01:31:32,820
Irving's history of New York in 1809

1711
01:31:38,899 --> 01:31:36,300
and again I'm researching this over the

1712
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:38,909
last week which I haven't spent a lot of

1713
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:42,239
time with this in the past but I had

1714
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:47,730
always thought that it was Santa Claus

1715
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:52,560
was a product of commercialization right

1716
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,110
that it was part of that and I thought

1717
01:31:59,899 --> 01:31:57,360
it was a much more modern I knew about

1718
01:32:03,439 --> 01:31:59,909
Saint Nick and things but as far as

1719
01:32:05,450 --> 01:32:03,449
Santa Claus and everything behind that I

1720
01:32:06,140 --> 01:32:05,460
was thinking this was something more

1721
01:32:10,370 --> 01:32:06,150
modern

1722
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:10,380
you know Macy's and in department stores

1723
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:14,010
and and a way to commercialize Christmas

1724
01:32:19,580 --> 01:32:16,110
and as it turns out you know I am just

1725
01:32:23,780 --> 01:32:19,590
completely wrong going back to 1809 and

1726
01:32:27,290 --> 01:32:23,790
then in 1821 the book a New Year's

1727
01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:27,300
present two little ones from five to

1728
01:32:33,260 --> 01:32:30,270
twelve that's the title of the book was

1729
01:32:36,620 --> 01:32:33,270
published in New York in 1821 and it

1730
01:32:39,620 --> 01:32:36,630
contained old Santa Claus with much

1731
01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:39,630
delight which was in an anonymous poem

1732
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:42,239
describing Santa Claus on a reindeer

1733
01:32:50,810 --> 01:32:45,530
sleigh bringing presents to children and

1734
01:32:52,839 --> 01:32:50,820
that is going back to 1821 and then two

1735
01:32:55,790 --> 01:32:52,849
years later check this out

1736
01:32:58,220 --> 01:32:55,800
two years later this is where we're

1737
01:33:01,040 --> 01:32:58,230
gonna get into the reindeer a night

1738
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:01,050
before Christmas was published in Troy

1739
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:04,260
New York in their newspaper called The

1740
01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:07,170
Sentinel and that was on December 23rd

1741
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:11,369
in 1823 to the day right today is

1742
01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:16,290
December 23rd in this the reindeer were

1743
01:33:28,490 --> 01:33:21,060
named Dasher dancer Prancer vixen comet

1744
01:33:32,540 --> 01:33:28,500
Cupid dunder and blixem with a B dunder

1745
01:33:35,839 --> 01:33:32,550
and blixem came from the old Dutch words

1746
01:33:38,569 --> 01:33:35,849
for thunder and lightning and they were

1747
01:33:42,799 --> 01:33:38,579
changed later to the more German

1748
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:42,809
sounding Donner and Blitzen and that's

1749
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:52,070
it's very good and like I said is it

1750
01:33:56,780 --> 01:33:53,610
commercial I think it's being

1751
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:56,790
commercialized but I think that there is

1752
01:34:02,180 --> 01:33:59,610
a very hidden meaning a very deep

1753
01:34:05,570 --> 01:34:02,190
meaning to all these stories it's not

1754
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:05,580
just random and when you're talking

1755
01:34:13,940 --> 01:34:10,890
about Krampus in ancient times even up

1756
01:34:17,630 --> 01:34:13,950
to modern times even when they were

1757
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:17,640
coming over in the ships from overseas

1758
01:34:26,450 --> 01:34:22,890
to to North America there is an epidemic

1759
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:26,460
of children going missing I don't know

1760
01:34:32,180 --> 01:34:29,010
if you've ever looked into that oh man

1761
01:34:38,630 --> 01:34:32,190
okay let's okay Debbie Downer okay let's

1762
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:38,640
go on our equipment special all right so

1763
01:34:42,860 --> 01:34:40,590
what I'm saying is that if you've read

1764
01:34:44,930 --> 01:34:42,870
these ancient texts or if you read these

1765
01:34:46,700 --> 01:34:44,940
ancient news reporting some of them

1766
01:34:49,310 --> 01:34:46,710
actually say that a lot of these

1767
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:49,320
children go missing and they're actually

1768
01:34:56,990 --> 01:34:54,570
blaming fairies right right so a lot of

1769
01:34:59,420 --> 01:34:57,000
these cases or where you even hear these

1770
01:35:02,540 --> 01:34:59,430
stories of changelings of these you know

1771
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:02,550
these enchanted children coming back and

1772
01:35:08,060 --> 01:35:04,800
replacing the real children like many

1773
01:35:09,470 --> 01:35:08,070
people really believed in this in their

1774
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:09,480
traditions and where they grew up

1775
01:35:15,710 --> 01:35:13,650
especially in northern Europe and again

1776
01:35:18,860 --> 01:35:15,720
when we were saying these children used

1777
01:35:23,170 --> 01:35:18,870
to go out into the forests to find these

1778
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:23,180
presents under these trees some of the

1779
01:35:29,450 --> 01:35:27,690
you know it was a rare occurrence but

1780
01:35:34,730 --> 01:35:29,460
some of those children never return back

1781
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:34,740
home so there was this kind of this is

1782
01:35:39,260 --> 01:35:36,330
where I personally believe this

1783
01:35:40,910 --> 01:35:39,270
tradition of Krampus started was when

1784
01:35:44,440 --> 01:35:40,920
these children would go out into the

1785
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:44,450
woods just like Red Riding Hood you know

1786
01:35:50,150 --> 01:35:47,370
you know red again they're going out

1787
01:35:52,340 --> 01:35:50,160
into the wood to face a danger and if

1788
01:35:54,350 --> 01:35:52,350
they're naughty or nice that's just kind

1789
01:35:56,900 --> 01:35:54,360
of a way of saying well that child was

1790
01:35:59,420 --> 01:35:56,910
kind of taken by Krampus because it was

1791
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,430
naughty but

1792
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:02,000
I'm thinking with my conspiracy brain

1793
01:36:05,780 --> 01:36:04,110
and we've actually talked about this

1794
01:36:10,630 --> 01:36:05,790
before with you know the whole missing

1795
01:36:14,330 --> 01:36:10,640
911 is that it's very possible that

1796
01:36:16,610 --> 01:36:14,340
people can easily disappear in these

1797
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:16,620
forests and I think that the beginning

1798
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:18,960
of these stories with Krampus started

1799
01:36:21,980 --> 01:36:20,370
out with those disappearances of

1800
01:36:26,330 --> 01:36:21,990
children who would go out into these

1801
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:26,340
forests now if we have if we have I was

1802
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:28,110
always confused about this when I was a

1803
01:36:33,970 --> 01:36:31,410
kid and I need this part of our history

1804
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:33,980
cleared up we've got eight reindeer

1805
01:36:44,230 --> 01:36:39,290
identified and named in 1823 right but

1806
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:44,240
Rudolph is number nine now our history

1807
01:36:48,530 --> 01:36:46,800
has never been gone back and been

1808
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,540
corrected here that there were nine

1809
01:36:53,810 --> 01:36:50,400
reindeer it's always eight always eighth

1810
01:36:55,580 --> 01:36:53,820
always eight Rudolph comes along and and

1811
01:37:00,590 --> 01:36:55,590
it's number nine where did Rudolph come

1812
01:37:03,260 --> 01:37:00,600
come from well I have a theory about

1813
01:37:05,630 --> 01:37:03,270
Rudolph and I'll say it's my theory

1814
01:37:10,060 --> 01:37:05,640
because I haven't really read this it's

1815
01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:10,070
just but I told you before that

1816
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:13,620
reindeers have a delicacy under these

1817
01:37:20,510 --> 01:37:16,320
trees which is these red mushrooms

1818
01:37:22,670 --> 01:37:20,520
mm-hmm so I would say Rudolph is the

1819
01:37:29,150 --> 01:37:22,680
reindeer that ate the most mushrooms and

1820
01:37:31,310 --> 01:37:29,160
his nose is red is that wait a minute I

1821
01:37:33,860 --> 01:37:31,320
don't remember that from the Christmas

1822
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:33,870
special I don't think it would be in the

1823
01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:38,010
Christmas special but let me describe a

1824
01:37:46,150 --> 01:37:40,980
little here and I'll go full in if you

1825
01:37:49,940 --> 01:37:46,160
all allow me but basically in these

1826
01:37:53,870 --> 01:37:49,950
shamanic traditions of Siberia the

1827
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:53,880
Siberian shamans what they would do is

1828
01:37:59,540 --> 01:37:57,360
they would allow these reindeer to go

1829
01:38:02,450 --> 01:37:59,550
out and forage underneath these trees

1830
01:38:06,470 --> 01:38:02,460
and just basically gorge themselves on

1831
01:38:09,020 --> 01:38:06,480
these red and white mushrooms and then

1832
01:38:12,890 --> 01:38:09,030
what these shamans would do is collect

1833
01:38:15,770 --> 01:38:12,900
the urine from these reindeer

1834
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:15,780
because there is an alchemical process

1835
01:38:21,650 --> 01:38:18,810
that happens in the digestion through

1836
01:38:25,940 --> 01:38:21,660
the liver of the reindeer which takes

1837
01:38:31,570 --> 01:38:25,950
out the toxins the poisons out of the

1838
01:38:35,480 --> 01:38:31,580
mushroom and Adi carboxylates these

1839
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:35,490
special psychoactive elements in these

1840
01:38:44,180 --> 01:38:38,850
mushrooms and these shamans would do

1841
01:38:45,470 --> 01:38:44,190
rituals and drink the urine and when

1842
01:38:47,780 --> 01:38:45,480
they would drink the urine they would

1843
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:47,790
have out-of-body experiences and they

1844
01:38:54,260 --> 01:38:51,210
would travel to the upper world so when

1845
01:38:58,460 --> 01:38:54,270
I hear that story what what do I think

1846
01:39:02,480 --> 01:38:58,470
of in my mind I think of Santa flying

1847
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:02,490
magically in the sky with his reindeers

1848
01:39:06,890 --> 01:39:04,560
that's what I think when I hear those

1849
01:39:09,410 --> 01:39:06,900
stories it's like a shamanic story and

1850
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,420
another very interesting thing well how

1851
01:39:11,660 --> 01:39:10,800
can you tell that story to a

1852
01:39:15,860 --> 01:39:11,670
four-year-old

1853
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:15,870
I wouldn't okay who's good this is late

1854
01:39:20,780 --> 01:39:18,050
night radio Jimmy I'm telling it's

1855
01:39:25,340 --> 01:39:20,790
adults can you imagine if that was in

1856
01:39:29,380 --> 01:39:25,350
the original 1964 stop animation Rudolph

1857
01:39:36,260 --> 01:39:31,190
well we would have a completely

1858
01:39:39,500 --> 01:39:36,270
different society I know that I mean I

1859
01:39:44,290 --> 01:39:39,510
had I had a hard enough time dealing

1860
01:39:49,540 --> 01:39:47,000
that was that was hard enough for me to

1861
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:49,550
deal with but if it was taking this

1862
01:39:55,070 --> 01:39:53,010
shamanic twist I find that very

1863
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:55,080
interesting somebody just posted up in

1864
01:40:03,380 --> 01:39:58,530
Twitter that Rudolph was a Montgomery

1865
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,390
Ward creation right so I I should have

1866
01:40:07,130 --> 01:40:05,040
done this earlier but I just you know

1867
01:40:08,420 --> 01:40:07,140
Wikipedia this and there it is right

1868
01:40:10,670 --> 01:40:08,430
there Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer

1869
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:10,680
fictional reindeer created by Robert

1870
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:14,010
Lewis Mae Rudolph is usually depicted as

1871
01:40:18,140 --> 01:40:16,110
the ninth and youngest of Santa Claus's

1872
01:40:20,630 --> 01:40:18,150
reindeer using his luminous red nose to

1873
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:20,640
lead the reindeer team and guide Santa's

1874
01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:22,110
sleigh and Christmas Eve

1875
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:26,140
Rudolph first appeared in a 1939

1876
01:40:33,140 --> 01:40:28,330
[\h__\h] written by Robert May and published

1877
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:33,150
by Montgomery Ward the department store

1878
01:40:36,330 --> 01:40:34,480
hmm

1879
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:36,340
so we haven't we had to wait all the way

1880
01:40:41,610 --> 01:40:38,370
to Rudolf to get to the

1881
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:41,620
commercialization of Christmas which you

1882
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:45,610
know what I feel a lot better that Kriss

1883
01:40:50,970 --> 01:40:48,370
Kringle was left out of the play and it

1884
01:40:57,420 --> 01:40:50,980
was it was it didn't happen until Rudolf

1885
01:41:01,620 --> 01:40:57,430
in 1939 like I said we have all these

1886
01:41:03,570 --> 01:41:01,630
different elements building this hybrid

1887
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:03,580
traditional story of many cultures

1888
01:41:10,230 --> 01:41:06,010
coming together and I believe it will

1889
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:10,240
change over time and what we see now may

1890
01:41:17,190 --> 01:41:15,010
we may not see 50 years from now so you

1891
01:41:19,950 --> 01:41:17,200
know it will always shift and change is

1892
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:19,960
what I believe did you know there was

1893
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:25,690
Leroy the redneck reindeer no but now I

1894
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:31,570
can't stop trying to visualize now let's

1895
01:41:40,230 --> 01:41:38,530
go to the North Pole and that is you

1896
01:41:44,070 --> 01:41:40,240
mentioned this earlier coming out of

1897
01:41:49,860 --> 01:41:44,080
traditions from Siberia and and the

1898
01:41:52,980 --> 01:41:49,870
northern part of Asia and the the

1899
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:52,990
original text that I could find was

1900
01:42:01,260 --> 01:41:55,600
Santa Claus living at the North Pole was

1901
01:42:04,910 --> 01:42:01,270
from Thomas Nast publication his

1902
01:42:11,610 --> 01:42:04,920
Christmas image in the Harper's issue of

1903
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:11,620
Harper dated December 29th 1866 was a

1904
01:42:18,980 --> 01:42:14,770
collage of engravings titled Santa Claus

1905
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:18,990
and his works which included the caption

1906
01:42:26,340 --> 01:42:23,170
Santa Claus Ville North Pole

1907
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:26,350
and that's the first I could find it in

1908
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:29,890
in American literature the first

1909
01:42:32,730 --> 01:42:32,170
references to the North Pole what did

1910
01:42:35,550 --> 01:42:32,740
you find

1911
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:35,560
well it has its it goes hand in hand

1912
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:38,170
with the adventurers of that time

1913
01:42:42,780 --> 01:42:40,330
you know it's like that was in the news

1914
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:42,790
constantly of people trying to go to the

1915
01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:45,280
North Pole it was like the the last

1916
01:42:48,630 --> 01:42:46,270
frontier

1917
01:42:50,430 --> 01:42:48,640
so yet of explorers going to the North

1918
01:42:52,530 --> 01:42:50,440
Pole and it was very exciting there was

1919
01:42:55,530 --> 01:42:52,540
a lot of newspaper articles about this

1920
01:42:58,260 --> 01:42:55,540
so if someone is bringing that kind of

1921
01:43:00,240 --> 01:42:58,270
storyline into it we already have the

1922
01:43:05,030 --> 01:43:00,250
vision of Christmas being a snowy winter

1923
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:05,040
place and because of the hype around

1924
01:43:10,620 --> 01:43:08,110
these adventurers seeking out the North

1925
01:43:12,510 --> 01:43:10,630
Pole I think it would be a perfect match

1926
01:43:14,450 --> 01:43:12,520
at that time period for them to

1927
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:14,460
incorporate that in some type of

1928
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:21,489
mythology now the the other part which

1929
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:26,770
is mrs. Claus I find this very strange

1930
01:43:34,979 --> 01:43:32,170
that Santa was single right that you

1931
01:43:38,490 --> 01:43:34,989
know going back to st. Nick st. Nicholas

1932
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:38,500
all the way up to modern history there

1933
01:43:46,500 --> 01:43:44,170
was never a mrs. Claus and I I find that

1934
01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:46,510
part very very very interesting because

1935
01:43:52,110 --> 01:43:50,260
you would think that Santa would have

1936
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:52,120
always had a mrs. Claus so if there was

1937
01:43:58,410 --> 01:43:55,210
a mrs. Claus a part of this and I want

1938
01:44:02,370 --> 01:43:58,420
to get to the elves as well but mrs.

1939
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:02,380
Claus is another creation that surfaced

1940
01:44:11,070 --> 01:44:07,650
in 1889 by poet Katherine Lee Bates and

1941
01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:11,080
she called out mrs. Claus in the poem

1942
01:44:16,979 --> 01:44:13,030
and I'm not making this up the poem was

1943
01:44:22,860 --> 01:44:16,989
titled goody Santa Claus on a sleigh

1944
01:44:25,169 --> 01:44:22,870
ride so wholesome yeah you could read

1945
01:44:28,169 --> 01:44:25,179
into that what you want you can read

1946
01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:28,179
into that what you want but that was the

1947
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:31,150
first thing and that this is what I

1948
01:44:35,459 --> 01:44:33,449
really love about the Internet is that

1949
01:44:39,870 --> 01:44:35,469
searching out this kind of information

1950
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:39,880
and and googling these questions right

1951
01:44:44,459 --> 01:44:42,400
the origin of mrs. Claus

1952
01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:44,469
what a mrs. Claus first appear in

1953
01:44:49,220 --> 01:44:46,120
literature you know and you go and you

1954
01:44:52,340 --> 01:44:49,230
can search this knowledge now the na

1955
01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:52,350
of everything is at our fingertips and

1956
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:55,260
now we can find out the origin stories

1957
01:45:00,080 --> 01:44:57,449
of everything from mrs. Claus of Santa

1958
01:45:04,130 --> 01:45:00,090
Claus to the reindeer all the way back

1959
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:04,140
to Christmas and the baby Jesus is this

1960
01:45:09,890 --> 01:45:07,130
gonna be the unglue egg right of

1961
01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:09,900
Christmas traditions when when these

1962
01:45:14,750 --> 01:45:12,000
things are easily accessible by

1963
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:14,760
everybody and I'm and I'm talking about

1964
01:45:20,330 --> 01:45:17,760
children as well I think the age of

1965
01:45:22,490 --> 01:45:20,340
information is here and someone who

1966
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:22,500
knows the right questions to ask and

1967
01:45:28,060 --> 01:45:24,960
what to search for will definitely come

1968
01:45:31,370 --> 01:45:28,070
and find these different stories

1969
01:45:34,910 --> 01:45:31,380
throughout history absolutely

1970
01:45:42,370 --> 01:45:34,920
now what about elves when did they come

1971
01:45:45,890 --> 01:45:42,380
into the mix okay so okay let's just say

1972
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:45,900
that elves will just look traditionally

1973
01:45:51,709 --> 01:45:49,290
right now what are elves jobs an elves

1974
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:51,719
job is to prepare the presence right

1975
01:45:56,950 --> 01:45:53,610
there they're Santa's workers they're

1976
01:46:01,150 --> 01:45:56,960
preparing the presence for the children

1977
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:01,160
so I'll just go back into the shamanic

1978
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:03,810
knowledge of this is that the elves are

1979
01:46:10,850 --> 01:46:07,110
part of the Otherworld and their job is

1980
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:10,860
to make sure that everything that we

1981
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:14,070
have as in like the trees the plants the

1982
01:46:19,130 --> 01:46:16,650
flowers the fruit everything follows the

1983
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:19,140
perfect cycle so their job is to keep

1984
01:46:25,070 --> 01:46:23,280
everything moving for the world you know

1985
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:25,080
so that we could have these presents we

1986
01:46:29,150 --> 01:46:28,050
can have these things now take it a

1987
01:46:32,810 --> 01:46:29,160
little step further with the whole

1988
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:32,820
shamanic thing and plant medicines is if

1989
01:46:39,770 --> 01:46:36,330
you read into the culture right now of

1990
01:46:43,250 --> 01:46:39,780
people doing plant medicines we're

1991
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:43,260
talking about like psychedelics DMT

1992
01:46:49,070 --> 01:46:46,370
psilocybin different things like this

1993
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:49,080
they come in contact with an

1994
01:46:54,590 --> 01:46:51,840
intelligence in these out-of-body States

1995
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:54,600
and the way that it's described in our

1996
01:47:01,649 --> 01:46:58,290
time period is the Machine elves have

1997
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:01,659
you ever heard those terms no I have not

1998
01:47:08,220 --> 01:47:05,770
now you've surprised me Jimmy well I'm a

1999
01:47:10,740 --> 01:47:08,230
little distracted mark Twan over in

2000
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:10,750
Australia just tweeted out I'm sure you

2001
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:13,449
just saw this a minute ago so Santa is

2002
01:47:18,450 --> 01:47:15,360
actually a figment of the imagination

2003
01:47:23,310 --> 01:47:18,460
conjured by drinking shroom infused

2004
01:47:25,620 --> 01:47:23,320
reindeer pee this is what you've got

2005
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:25,630
what you've received from this radio

2006
01:47:36,689 --> 01:47:35,070
oh my word have you seen I oh okay I'm

2007
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:36,699
just gonna let everybody know this last

2008
01:47:40,740 --> 01:47:39,250
segment when we come back after the

2009
01:47:43,890 --> 01:47:40,750
break I'm gonna open up the phone lines

2010
01:47:45,450 --> 01:47:43,900
I meant to do this earlier but I'm gonna

2011
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:45,460
open up the phone lines to all of you

2012
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:47,290
seven four seven two two eight two zero

2013
01:47:55,729 --> 01:47:50,730
five one and we'll take your Mary

2014
01:47:58,919 --> 01:47:55,739
witness phone calls Jason have you seen

2015
01:48:03,870 --> 01:47:58,929
the new series on Netflix called

2016
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:03,880
The Witcher unfortunately I haven't been

2017
01:48:06,419 --> 01:48:05,830
watching TV over the past couple of

2018
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:06,429
months

2019
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:09,130
so I haven't unfortunate okay you need

2020
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:12,250
to I'm just going to say this to

2021
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:14,650
everybody certainly through this holiday

2022
01:48:22,379 --> 01:48:18,370
season check out the new series The

2023
01:48:25,410 --> 01:48:22,389
Witcher and there's a lot of reasons to

2024
01:48:28,620 --> 01:48:25,420
watch it first off cinematically the

2025
01:48:31,169 --> 01:48:28,630
impact is just as incredible as Game of

2026
01:48:33,780 --> 01:48:31,179
Thrones and that's pretty lofty for me

2027
01:48:37,140 --> 01:48:33,790
to say something like this but it is

2028
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:37,150
certainly up there with that kind of

2029
01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:40,330
production but the the other reason to

2030
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:44,620
watch it is the the storyline completely

2031
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:49,090
original and and very very cool but

2032
01:48:56,729 --> 01:48:54,090
dealing with magic and Magi like they do

2033
01:48:59,070 --> 01:48:56,739
in The Witcher is one thing but there's

2034
01:49:01,800 --> 01:48:59,080
another element of this which is

2035
01:49:04,410 --> 01:49:01,810
different than anything else that I've

2036
01:49:09,330 --> 01:49:04,420
seen and you just spoke about this which

2037
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:09,340
are the elves and this is what reminded

2038
01:49:14,260 --> 01:49:11,170
me of the witcher's the way that they

2039
01:49:17,380 --> 01:49:14,270
deal with elves here is much is

2040
01:49:20,230 --> 01:49:17,390
much like you are describing to us and

2041
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:20,240
you have not seen the TV series and I

2042
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:23,690
think that elves although we talk about

2043
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:27,770
fairy tales today and and folklore when

2044
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:29,810
it comes to elves that I think that

2045
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:33,110
there are something much stronger behind

2046
01:49:40,740 --> 01:49:36,560
the story telling of what elves are and

2047
01:49:44,410 --> 01:49:40,750
that they quite possibly could could be

2048
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:44,420
an ancient race that existed on this

2049
01:49:54,850 --> 01:49:51,050
planet yes and you know people that have

2050
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:54,860
experienced these beings they're highly

2051
01:50:00,340 --> 01:49:56,690
connected to nature they're like a

2052
01:50:03,010 --> 01:50:00,350
nature spirit and elemental and you have

2053
01:50:05,730 --> 01:50:03,020
to treat them very well with respect or

2054
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:05,740
else they could be dangerous towards you

2055
01:50:11,230 --> 01:50:09,410
but they're there to make sure that the

2056
01:50:13,410 --> 01:50:11,240
harvest is ready they're there to make

2057
01:50:15,940 --> 01:50:13,420
sure that plants bloom in the right time

2058
01:50:18,430 --> 01:50:15,950
so it's almost like you have this

2059
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:18,440
intelligence behind nature which we will

2060
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:20,930
call the elves that make sure all the

2061
01:50:27,130 --> 01:50:23,690
presents are ready for Santa to give to

2062
01:50:28,990 --> 01:50:27,140
the children we need to take another

2063
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:29,000
break we're going to do this here and

2064
01:50:34,150 --> 01:50:31,010
when we come back after the break of

2065
01:50:37,450 --> 01:50:34,160
course I will open up the phone lines

2066
01:50:39,790 --> 01:50:37,460
and let's take some phone calls from The

2067
01:50:44,260 --> 01:50:39,800
Fader nuts and this will be by the way

2068
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:44,270
tonight is our last broadcast of 2019

2069
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:46,370
and everything after tonight will be

2070
01:50:51,370 --> 01:50:48,170
replays because we're gonna go celebrate

2071
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:51,380
Christmas and we won't be back with

2072
01:50:57,370 --> 01:50:54,770
another live broadcast until 2020 so

2073
01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:57,380
it'll be the last opportunity to hear

2074
01:51:01,990 --> 01:50:58,850
from all of you and it's pretty cool

2075
01:51:05,230 --> 01:51:02,000
that we'll do it on Christmas with our

2076
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:05,240
marry quickness a special event and with

2077
01:51:19,569 --> 01:51:07,930
that let's go to the next tune

2078
01:51:27,140 --> 01:51:23,930
all right welcome back it's our Mary

2079
01:51:30,979 --> 01:51:27,150
quickness special with Jason quit live

2080
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:30,989
from Canada great conversation tonight

2081
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:33,210
the history of Christmas the foundation

2082
01:51:38,959 --> 01:51:36,719
approximator of everything was was gone

2083
01:51:40,970 --> 01:51:38,969
through tonight and like you know you

2084
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:40,980
said it well Jason we're not here to

2085
01:51:45,709 --> 01:51:43,530
break hearts just here to lay it out

2086
01:51:48,589 --> 01:51:45,719
there you know let's put the stuff out

2087
01:51:50,839 --> 01:51:48,599
you guys go and do your own research and

2088
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:50,849
and see what falls from the tree that's

2089
01:51:56,060 --> 01:51:53,760
all you got to do right oh yeah

2090
01:51:58,850 --> 01:51:56,070
deep dive into Christmas it's quite a

2091
01:52:01,459 --> 01:51:58,860
journey I remember when I first started

2092
01:52:04,580 --> 01:52:01,469
finding out that this stuff and it was

2093
01:52:10,250 --> 01:52:04,590
about it was almost 20 years ago now and

2094
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,260
I started to go piece by piece right and

2095
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:12,239
and look into this I was like oh this is

2096
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:15,599
just not this is gonna shake up

2097
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:18,719
everything you know and and I'm gonna

2098
01:52:23,419 --> 01:52:21,090
say that there are hundreds of millions

2099
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:23,429
of people around this planet right now

2100
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:25,290
that have the same knowledge of what we

2101
01:52:28,609 --> 01:52:26,130
laid out tonight

2102
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:28,619
and people have gotten and looked into

2103
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:30,239
this and you know what the Sun still

2104
01:52:35,950 --> 01:52:33,810
came up no pun intended right it wasn't

2105
01:52:38,419 --> 01:52:35,960
it wasn't earth-shattering to people I

2106
01:52:41,660 --> 01:52:38,429
think that they just understand that

2107
01:52:45,069 --> 01:52:41,670
there's origins to everything but it

2108
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:45,079
doesn't change where we are today and

2109
01:52:50,689 --> 01:52:47,840
civilization didn't collapse did it

2110
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:50,699
absolutely not I mean I celebrate

2111
01:52:55,819 --> 01:52:53,280
Christmas I love Christmas you know I'm

2112
01:52:57,709 --> 01:52:55,829
so hyped about this this knowledge or

2113
01:52:59,830 --> 01:52:57,719
this information that I've gathered it's

2114
01:53:00,979 --> 01:52:59,840
only enhanced my love of Christmas

2115
01:53:03,740 --> 01:53:00,989
absolutely

2116
01:53:05,870 --> 01:53:03,750
and with that you want to take some

2117
01:53:08,260 --> 01:53:05,880
phone calls absolutely

2118
01:53:10,669 --> 01:53:08,270
all right everybody turn your radio down

2119
01:53:11,979 --> 01:53:10,679
here we go hi you're live on fade to

2120
01:53:16,189 --> 01:53:11,989
black who's calling

2121
01:53:18,709 --> 01:53:16,199
hi Jimmy it's Andy and Allen hi Sandy

2122
01:53:23,290 --> 01:53:18,719
how are you Mary quit miss say hi to

2123
01:53:27,490 --> 01:53:23,300
Jason Mary rockin quit

2124
01:53:29,089 --> 01:53:27,500
their equipment back to you that's

2125
01:53:33,130 --> 01:53:29,099
awesome

2126
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:33,140
in there cool isn't it

2127
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:36,570
is it is beyond cool and thank you for

2128
01:53:44,210 --> 01:53:41,850
that you know this show sandy is is

2129
01:53:48,710 --> 01:53:44,220
about all things fun and the things that

2130
01:53:50,270 --> 01:53:48,720
I enjoy and Jason and I are both

2131
01:53:52,940 --> 01:53:50,280
musicians and we love talking about

2132
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:52,950
music and stuff and and before the show

2133
01:53:57,980 --> 01:53:55,920
I played them you know the tracks that I

2134
01:54:00,470 --> 01:53:57,990
was going to use tonight and we did did

2135
01:54:05,870 --> 01:54:00,480
nothing but laugh you know it's just so

2136
01:54:09,860 --> 01:54:05,880
cool I and and what year did that come

2137
01:54:13,130 --> 01:54:09,870
out oh geez

2138
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:13,140
I've been listening to them is probably

2139
01:54:18,050 --> 01:54:14,330
20 years old

2140
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:18,060
alright because diesel still

2141
01:54:23,930 --> 01:54:20,250
recognizable yeah yeah I've seen some

2142
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:23,940
live versions of these cuts that that

2143
01:54:30,530 --> 01:54:28,110
are very recent you know you know five

2144
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:30,540
years ten years old and his voice is

2145
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:32,610
still there he's what you know he's one

2146
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:34,980
of the great singers in the history of

2147
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:38,250
rock and roll that in the entire band is

2148
01:54:44,540 --> 01:54:40,530
is really great but that that doesn't

2149
01:54:48,230 --> 01:54:44,550
get you know they don't speak about Dee

2150
01:54:51,020 --> 01:54:48,240
Snider as often as they speak about say

2151
01:54:54,530 --> 01:54:51,030
you know Ronnie James Dio or Rober plan

2152
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:54,540
or Rob Halford or Jeff Tate you know

2153
01:54:57,860 --> 01:54:55,110
they don't

2154
01:55:00,680 --> 01:54:57,870
DD's not in that conversation and he

2155
01:55:02,660 --> 01:55:00,690
should be for sure well he he took it to

2156
01:55:05,870 --> 01:55:02,670
the he took it to the Congress that one

2157
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:05,880
day well and you don't want the the let

2158
01:55:10,900 --> 01:55:07,890
me say this about Dee Snider if there's

2159
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:10,910
one thing that came out about that guy

2160
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:14,370
over the years down to earth

2161
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:19,050
cool honest in a real human being that I

2162
01:55:27,140 --> 01:55:22,410
just think his personality is is just

2163
01:55:29,090 --> 01:55:27,150
just extraordinary yeah yeah no doubt

2164
01:55:31,220 --> 01:55:29,100
about it so what do you do Jason I got a

2165
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:31,230
I got a I got a thank you for coming on

2166
01:55:37,940 --> 01:55:35,130
the show I'm very overwhelmed but

2167
01:55:43,060 --> 01:55:37,950
interested I got a comment you were

2168
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:43,070
talking before the break about elves yes

2169
01:55:49,850 --> 01:55:46,560
now can we go a little further with the

2170
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:49,860
very thing cuz Tooth Fairy was always so

2171
01:56:03,590 --> 01:55:56,970
cool to me okay like because something I

2172
01:56:11,990 --> 01:56:03,600
produce made money and you sure it

2173
01:56:15,170 --> 01:56:12,000
wasn't your parents well yes yeah I

2174
01:56:19,610 --> 01:56:15,180
wanted to pull out my own teeth to make

2175
01:56:21,170 --> 01:56:19,620
a couple of bucks well what we are

2176
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:21,180
talking about fairies in the fairy

2177
01:56:25,250 --> 01:56:23,010
world's there are different fairies they

2178
01:56:28,010 --> 01:56:25,260
have different personalities and they

2179
01:56:30,980 --> 01:56:28,020
would like different things and many

2180
01:56:34,220 --> 01:56:30,990
people in ancient times would actually

2181
01:56:37,580 --> 01:56:34,230
make offerings to the fairy world in

2182
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:37,590
exchange for gifts so let's just you

2183
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:40,880
know be simple and say you know you give

2184
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:44,970
candy or liquor or something to the

2185
01:56:49,850 --> 01:56:47,850
fairy world in hopes that your crops

2186
01:56:51,860 --> 01:56:49,860
grow better so basically you're giving

2187
01:56:54,890 --> 01:56:51,870
incentive to the fairies to do something

2188
01:56:58,940 --> 01:56:54,900
good for you and offering a tooth imeem

2189
01:57:02,360 --> 01:56:58,950
that's I don't know exactly where that

2190
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:02,370
started to me it sounds quite

2191
01:57:08,570 --> 01:57:06,690
frightening actually but to offer up a

2192
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:08,580
tooth is that's a that's a very

2193
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:11,370
important piece of who you are to the

2194
01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:13,530
fairy in exchange for some type of good

2195
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:15,300
so it might just be that tradition of

2196
01:57:21,380 --> 01:57:17,610
learning how to give to the fairy world

2197
01:57:22,910 --> 01:57:21,390
to receive a gift and you know what

2198
01:57:26,540 --> 01:57:22,920
there's a there's another part to this

2199
01:57:29,210 --> 01:57:26,550
though that my sandy bringing this up I

2200
01:57:32,980 --> 01:57:29,220
don't I don't know if she realizes but

2201
01:57:36,140 --> 01:57:32,990
we would do the same thing as children

2202
01:57:39,590 --> 01:57:36,150
leaving out milk and cookies for Santa

2203
01:57:43,370 --> 01:57:39,600
you know is that is that bribery right

2204
01:57:47,690 --> 01:57:43,380
you know what I mean was that is that to

2205
01:57:51,980 --> 01:57:47,700
make sure that you were going to get the

2206
01:57:53,770 --> 01:57:51,990
gifts that you know by rewarding Santa

2207
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:53,780
you don't want to leave Santa bad

2208
01:57:59,810 --> 01:57:57,210
chocolate chip cookies right you had to

2209
01:58:00,570 --> 01:57:59,820
leave her good ones and and then when he

2210
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:00,580
got up and they

2211
01:58:08,250 --> 01:58:03,130
were gone and they were eaten you felt

2212
01:58:12,420 --> 01:58:08,260
as a kid that the trade off the counter

2213
01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:12,430
offer in the deal was completed because

2214
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:14,950
Santa ate the cookies kind of the same

2215
01:58:19,890 --> 01:58:17,110
trade off like you were doing with your

2216
01:58:21,540 --> 01:58:19,900
tooth with the fairies you're doing with

2217
01:58:24,810 --> 01:58:21,550
the milk and cookies and Santa it's

2218
01:58:29,010 --> 01:58:24,820
almost the same story isn't it it's also

2219
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:29,020
same story in Judaism we're on Passover

2220
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:31,930
you leave a glass of wine for a yahoo

2221
01:58:38,910 --> 01:58:35,410
and it's the offering to like bring this

2222
01:58:41,130 --> 01:58:38,920
imaginary force as this being into your

2223
01:58:44,970 --> 01:58:41,140
dinner party right allow him to offer

2224
01:58:47,310 --> 01:58:44,980
this wine so it's it's it's deep in our

2225
01:58:49,820 --> 01:58:47,320
traditions to give offerings to this

2226
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:49,830
spirit world of the fairies and elves

2227
01:58:54,810 --> 01:58:52,330
yeah the story is much deeper than we

2228
01:58:57,330 --> 01:58:54,820
think it's milk and cookies but there's

2229
01:59:00,060 --> 01:58:57,340
something more to it sandy thank you so

2230
01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:00,070
much for the phone call and enjoy your

2231
01:59:04,770 --> 01:59:03,700
Christmas holiday you guys - you guys -

2232
01:59:06,990 --> 01:59:04,780
appreciate it

2233
01:59:11,850 --> 01:59:07,000
Happy New Year Happy New Year a Happy

2234
01:59:13,010 --> 01:59:11,860
Holidays Mary quickness thank you so

2235
01:59:16,260 --> 01:59:13,020
much

2236
01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:16,270
it's kind of funny when she brings it up

2237
01:59:22,830 --> 01:59:18,820
and then you start to think about the

2238
01:59:25,020 --> 01:59:22,840
parallels that are there with with Santa

2239
01:59:27,930 --> 01:59:25,030
Claus and it seems all harmless right

2240
01:59:30,270 --> 01:59:27,940
it's it's milk and cookies but it's

2241
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:30,280
there's something much deeper in the

2242
01:59:36,150 --> 01:59:33,610
meaning isn't it I really believe so and

2243
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:36,160
it goes back to this whole offering to

2244
01:59:42,030 --> 01:59:38,290
the spirit world so that you will be

2245
01:59:44,460 --> 01:59:42,040
blessed in the in the fruit of the world

2246
01:59:47,790 --> 01:59:44,470
basically I had said before the break

2247
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:47,800
Rita came running in the bunker we've

2248
01:59:51,660 --> 01:59:49,810
got one more show before the end of the

2249
01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:51,670
year and it's with Billy Carson next

2250
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:54,310
Monday you made a mistake and I did I

2251
01:59:59,460 --> 01:59:57,130
did I mentioned it earlier when we

2252
02:00:02,730 --> 01:59:59,470
opened up the show but yes we'll be back

2253
02:00:06,450 --> 02:00:02,740
on Monday week from today December 30th

2254
02:00:07,710 --> 02:00:06,460
with Billy Carson and let's go back to

2255
02:00:10,980 --> 02:00:07,720
the phones hi you're live on fade to

2256
02:00:14,490 --> 02:00:10,990
black who's calling my jimmies did from

2257
02:00:18,230 --> 02:00:14,500
Sacramento Mary quit miss

2258
02:00:21,450 --> 02:00:18,240
quit this hi Jason hi how are you doing

2259
02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:21,460
terrific you know it's funny because I

2260
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:22,960
was raised the you know in a Christian

2261
02:00:28,860 --> 02:00:26,050
Church of the traditions of you know the

2262
02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:28,870
Jesus story and you know his birth and

2263
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:30,790
all the religious significance but I

2264
02:00:35,580 --> 02:00:33,760
really like I don't want to call an

2265
02:00:38,850 --> 02:00:35,590
interpretation but the knowledge that

2266
02:00:41,070 --> 02:00:38,860
you presented about how it's related to

2267
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:41,080
astrology and I like it because it

2268
02:00:47,630 --> 02:00:45,370
really makes sense I think it's

2269
02:00:50,630 --> 02:00:47,640
something that should be taught actually

2270
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:50,640
in addition to you know the Bible story

2271
02:00:57,540 --> 02:00:53,290
but I did have a question for you

2272
02:01:00,240 --> 02:00:57,550
sure is there any significance in your

2273
02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:00,250
opinion to the kings of the Orient

2274
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:06,070
bringing gifts to Jesus well yeah you

2275
02:01:11,790 --> 02:01:08,170
know I was gonna ask you about this

2276
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:11,800
earlier Jason which is the part of it

2277
02:01:18,660 --> 02:01:15,070
which you know frankincense and myrrh or

2278
02:01:20,940 --> 02:01:18,670
silver and and you know the different

2279
02:01:26,310 --> 02:01:20,950
things that were brought in it was

2280
02:01:29,820 --> 02:01:26,320
frankincense myrrh and gold right yes

2281
02:01:31,260 --> 02:01:29,830
yes and and what was the third was

2282
02:01:33,990 --> 02:01:31,270
frankincense myrrh and gold

2283
02:01:36,810 --> 02:01:34,000
those were the three okay so one of the

2284
02:01:39,860 --> 02:01:36,820
wise men had frankincense one of them

2285
02:01:43,980 --> 02:01:39,870
had myrrh and the the other one had gold

2286
02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:43,990
yes and there is some confusion many

2287
02:01:49,500 --> 02:01:47,170
people or many scholars they don't

2288
02:01:51,690 --> 02:01:49,510
really know if it was a actual gold or

2289
02:01:54,450 --> 02:01:51,700
was the manna that they talked about in

2290
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:54,460
ancient times but remember Fred what is

2291
02:01:59,040 --> 02:01:56,800
frankincense and myrrh Frank it's and

2292
02:02:01,080 --> 02:01:59,050
myrrh is holy incense that was burned in

2293
02:02:03,300 --> 02:02:01,090
the temples especially in Egypt with

2294
02:02:06,540 --> 02:02:03,310
frankincense and myrrh they would use

2295
02:02:08,610 --> 02:02:06,550
myrrh in embalming they would mute they

2296
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:08,620
would burn frankincense in the temples

2297
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:12,610
to uplift the spirits and they also come

2298
02:02:18,390 --> 02:02:14,650
from these resinous turn if it these

2299
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:18,400
these coniferous trees you know so then

2300
02:02:24,510 --> 02:02:20,560
it goes back to this whole connection

2301
02:02:27,330 --> 02:02:24,520
with trees the tree of light and the

2302
02:02:27,700 --> 02:02:27,340
gold the gold is knowledge the gold is

2303
02:02:39,550 --> 02:02:27,710
the

2304
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:39,560
Sun I was told when I was a very very

2305
02:02:46,150 --> 02:02:42,530
young but when I brought that up you

2306
02:02:49,300 --> 02:02:46,160
know what why why incense you know I

2307
02:02:51,310 --> 02:02:49,310
mean gold why not diamonds or something

2308
02:02:55,180 --> 02:02:51,320
and I was told very young that

2309
02:02:58,270 --> 02:02:55,190
frankincense and myrrh were more

2310
02:03:03,420 --> 02:02:58,280
valuable than gold and traded that way

2311
02:03:07,090 --> 02:03:03,430
too as well these were very very prized

2312
02:03:08,740 --> 02:03:07,100
possessions that were traded oh it was

2313
02:03:11,229 --> 02:03:08,750
even in the tombs of the Egyptian

2314
02:03:14,140 --> 02:03:11,239
pharaohs it was one of the they actually

2315
02:03:17,459 --> 02:03:14,150
had more frankincense and myrrh than

2316
02:03:20,380 --> 02:03:17,469
gold right you know so it was extremely

2317
02:03:24,970 --> 02:03:20,390
important and it was used in rituals it

2318
02:03:27,550 --> 02:03:24,980
was used in basically I want to say

2319
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:27,560
out-of-body experiences and clearing

2320
02:03:33,250 --> 02:03:30,770
space so frankincense and myrrh have

2321
02:03:37,930 --> 02:03:33,260
always been wrapped into spiritual

2322
02:03:41,250 --> 02:03:37,940
experience and the and Deb are you guys

2323
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:41,260
doing anything special for Christmas oh

2324
02:03:45,220 --> 02:03:43,730
yeah I'm going to my family's house

2325
02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:45,230
tomorrow night for Christmas Eve and

2326
02:03:49,780 --> 02:03:47,090
then to another family thing on

2327
02:03:51,459 --> 02:03:49,790
Christmas Day okay but I'm not taking

2328
02:03:56,620 --> 02:03:51,469
any gold frankincense and myrrh I'm

2329
02:03:58,900 --> 02:03:56,630
taking was on you Rita Rita just tweeted

2330
02:03:59,830 --> 02:03:58,910
tweeted out she's on a campaign to get

2331
02:04:04,510 --> 02:03:59,840
you on Twitter

2332
02:04:06,250 --> 02:04:04,520
oh okay well I will look into it over

2333
02:04:08,590 --> 02:04:06,260
the holiday and try to get signed up on

2334
02:04:13,150 --> 02:04:08,600
it yeah quit playing around okay quit

2335
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:13,160
goofing off all right Rita the boss so

2336
02:04:22,570 --> 02:04:19,730
now I gotta follow yes she just texted

2337
02:04:25,959 --> 02:04:22,580
me right now too as well so I did my

2338
02:04:33,310 --> 02:04:25,969
part okay good I have a great Christmas

2339
02:04:35,580 --> 02:04:33,320
you guys merry quit miss Deb go back

2340
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:35,590
late Appy thanks so much

2341
02:04:40,740 --> 02:04:37,210
the

2342
02:04:43,380 --> 02:04:40,750
let me let me juggle some stuff around

2343
02:04:45,210 --> 02:04:43,390
here I've got some people on hold but

2344
02:04:47,970 --> 02:04:45,220
somebody just called it and I'm going to

2345
02:04:49,410 --> 02:04:47,980
bring in first and I'm gonna try to

2346
02:04:51,090 --> 02:04:49,420
squeeze all of this in I've only got

2347
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:51,100
five minutes left because I got one more

2348
02:04:56,970 --> 02:04:54,010
song I'm gonna play too as well and I

2349
02:04:59,340 --> 02:04:56,980
like playing late-night DJ I've always

2350
02:05:01,680 --> 02:04:59,350
wanted to do that too to be the late

2351
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:01,690
night DJ dude hi you're live on fade to

2352
02:05:07,260 --> 02:05:04,690
black who's calling hello gentlemen

2353
02:05:07,950 --> 02:05:07,270
merry Christmas to you all hey Eric how

2354
02:05:10,410 --> 02:05:07,960
are you

2355
02:05:13,230 --> 02:05:10,420
Merry Christmas here in a great show I

2356
02:05:16,530 --> 02:05:13,240
just want to thank you for having Jason

2357
02:05:18,230 --> 02:05:16,540
on again but I mean I gotta say I don't

2358
02:05:21,810 --> 02:05:18,240
think there's a guest that you have on

2359
02:05:23,820 --> 02:05:21,820
that that brings more knowledge and you

2360
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:23,830
know education and more research

2361
02:05:27,690 --> 02:05:25,330
material than Jason and I'm not just

2362
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:27,700
saying that it's pretty cool

2363
02:05:33,150 --> 02:05:30,130
Yeah right on we appreciate that Eric

2364
02:05:35,460 --> 02:05:33,160
and thank you thank you for that yeah do

2365
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:35,470
you have a question for Jason I do have

2366
02:05:40,740 --> 02:05:36,970
a question for Jason so I've been

2367
02:05:42,750 --> 02:05:40,750
waiting all night for the Yahweh alien

2368
02:05:45,390 --> 02:05:42,760
party get there so out there at all

2369
02:05:47,820 --> 02:05:45,400
Colin so this all that's called a theory

2370
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:47,830
the Jason has really sound like a theory

2371
02:05:54,710 --> 02:05:51,010
if the dots do add up so I think the

2372
02:05:58,200 --> 02:05:54,720
research but let's go with Jason the

2373
02:06:00,750 --> 02:05:58,210
idea of the alien God and Jesus being

2374
02:06:04,350 --> 02:06:00,760
you know like a hybrid implant does that

2375
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:04,360
fit into this whole thing when it comes

2376
02:06:11,820 --> 02:06:09,370
to the Astro theology aspect of it no it

2377
02:06:18,230 --> 02:06:11,830
does not it does not fit into this type

2378
02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:18,240
of story but at the point you know

2379
02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:22,960
because well my theory of these things

2380
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:26,290
have changed over time and I believe

2381
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:29,410
that there are interdimensional higher

2382
02:06:35,940 --> 02:06:32,850
intelligence beings that can actually

2383
02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:35,950
speak through people or incarnate

2384
02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:40,360
through certain individuals that will

2385
02:06:48,150 --> 02:06:42,310
bring information and knowledge to this

2386
02:06:51,090 --> 02:06:48,160
world okay so these gods that the top

2387
02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:51,100
ten God for example the disease these

2388
02:06:57,090 --> 02:06:55,360
Ben you know non-human entities is that

2389
02:06:59,550 --> 02:06:57,100
what we're talking about well let me let

2390
02:07:02,280 --> 02:06:59,560
me just start off from like I'll but to

2391
02:07:04,650 --> 02:07:02,290
make it really really fast okay okay

2392
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:04,660
when the first humans came and this is

2393
02:07:08,730 --> 02:07:07,360
just my opinion obviously when the first

2394
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:08,740
humans came in started to learn things

2395
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:11,110
are learning the laws of nature so it's

2396
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all the universal laws they came up with

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this thing there there is one source of

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creation and through that source there

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they divided it up into 72 archetypes or

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72 deities that would hold each and

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individual law personality and identity

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02:07:35,730 --> 02:07:33,460
and then as people would let's say have

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02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:35,740
spiritual experiences they would

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experience an archetype they would

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experience these universal laws which

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would be kind of like embodying these

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higher consciousness Azure or deities as

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time went on I truly believe that people

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02:07:56,340 --> 02:07:55,000
started to connect with these different

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02:07:58,830 --> 02:07:56,350
archetypes and gods and different

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02:08:03,180 --> 02:07:58,840
interdimensional beings did speak to

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people so I haven't I don't have the

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answer yet is the final answer I don't

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02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:08,020
have the answer but I think that there

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02:08:14,370 --> 02:08:11,610
is a type of interaction between

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02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:14,380
non-physical intelligence and humans

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growing in this world awesome thanks

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Jason

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there you go every go and have a great

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you guys in a few days absolutely and

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02:08:34,350 --> 02:08:30,220
have a great safe Mary quickness right

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02:08:36,090 --> 02:08:34,360
on Eric and we'll see Eric this Thursday

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02:08:37,380 --> 02:08:36,100
at the rainbow Bar & Grill right there

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02:08:39,390 --> 02:08:37,390
in Hollywood and I do want to remind

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everybody that's going down December

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02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:43,090
26th on Thursday in a couple of days the

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02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:45,310
day after Christmas and you can go to

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02:08:53,220 --> 02:08:49,920
our Facebook page for that event and

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02:08:55,470 --> 02:08:53,230
RSVP right there I've got time for one

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02:08:58,370 --> 02:08:55,480
last quick phone call hi you're live I'm

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02:09:02,340 --> 02:08:58,380
fade to black who's calling oh my god

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02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:02,350
another last phone call there you go

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there you go Fran Mary

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marry quickness yeah no kidding I so

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02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:14,469
love watching or listening to all of

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02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:21,280
this I was enthralled just going oh my

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02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:27,280
god everything he said was making sense

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02:09:38,580 --> 02:09:35,290
to me are you okay with it yes yeah it's

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02:09:44,370 --> 02:09:38,590
really not that big of a deal but no

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02:09:47,550 --> 02:09:44,380
it's not it was easy yeah the whole the

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02:09:50,130 --> 02:09:47,560
whole Orion's belt the three kings the

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02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:50,140
Star of Bethlehem being serious you know

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02:09:58,919 --> 02:09:54,730
the East star the star in the East the

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02:10:04,770 --> 02:09:58,929
Virgo constellation which is virgin the

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02:10:10,229 --> 02:10:04,780
Sun rising on December 25th all of this

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02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:10,239
it it fits not only from the

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02:10:17,010 --> 02:10:12,880
astrological side of things but it fits

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02:10:19,370 --> 02:10:17,020
the stories that have been there for

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02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:19,380
thousands of years with every

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02:10:28,050 --> 02:10:23,610
civilization every every continent on

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02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:28,060
this planet and it's okay it's okay it's

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02:10:38,010 --> 02:10:30,880
all right it's all right out here every

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02:10:41,220 --> 02:10:38,020
time I hear this I just go yeah oh I'm

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02:10:44,540 --> 02:10:41,230
good do you have a question for you do

2455
02:10:48,780 --> 02:10:44,550
you have a question for Jason real quick

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02:10:54,150 --> 02:10:48,790
how did he get so I asked him that all

2457
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:54,160
the time well when I started to go

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02:11:00,990 --> 02:10:56,370
through my awakening in my early 20s

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02:11:03,919 --> 02:11:01,000
this was pre YouTube so most of the

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02:11:07,740 --> 02:11:03,929
information I was I got I actually

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02:11:10,979 --> 02:11:07,750
ordered books and got books right from

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02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:10,989
the library and even today I think I

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02:11:14,340 --> 02:11:12,850
have like three four five hundred books

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02:11:17,820 --> 02:11:14,350
I don't even know how much I have and

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02:11:19,620 --> 02:11:17,830
I've read pretty much all of them and

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02:11:21,630 --> 02:11:19,630
that's what really helped me

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02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:21,640
through my awakening process a lot of

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02:11:30,780 --> 02:11:25,510
like esoteric stuff you name it it's in

2469
02:11:35,180 --> 02:11:30,790
the library I I totally get that when I

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02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:35,190
was a little kid my home away from home

2471
02:11:42,690 --> 02:11:39,910
was the library I grabbed every book

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02:11:50,340 --> 02:11:42,700
that I could read on anything

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02:11:54,830 --> 02:11:50,350
I still do that I do that tonight

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02:12:05,580 --> 02:12:01,230
Rita and I went to a library of two

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02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:05,590
months ago and we had to do because of a

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02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:08,560
government situation okay it's it's a

2477
02:12:13,380 --> 02:12:10,570
long story but it's a community center

2478
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:13,390
and we had an appointment and but anyway

2479
02:12:19,650 --> 02:12:15,930
so we're sitting in the library and

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02:12:22,830 --> 02:12:19,660
there is a power there is a majesty

2481
02:12:24,420 --> 02:12:22,840
there's a thing about a library because

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02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:24,430
you're looking around slightly it's it's

2483
02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:25,630
like the Internet

2484
02:12:36,450 --> 02:12:33,670
but for real yeah and we were watching

2485
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:36,460
we were watching the kids run around and

2486
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:38,650
grab books and go and sit at tables and

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02:12:45,630 --> 02:12:42,010
and there's just something about a

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02:12:48,750 --> 02:12:45,640
library that that I enjoy today that has

2489
02:12:51,660 --> 02:12:48,760
never gone away from me from the first

2490
02:12:53,730 --> 02:12:51,670
time I was I remember walking into a

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02:12:56,070 --> 02:12:53,740
library for the for like the first time

2492
02:13:02,390 --> 02:12:56,080
and you know and they lay this on you

2493
02:13:07,170 --> 02:13:02,400
you can check out any book you want but

2494
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:07,180
really but you know and yeah yeah that's

2495
02:13:17,220 --> 02:13:09,850
why I always had the problem of going

2496
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:17,230
and going oh I want this one yeah I know

2497
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:21,280
usually mechanics I would go to cars

2498
02:13:27,170 --> 02:13:24,690
yeah what was the

2499
02:13:30,740 --> 02:13:27,180
the car the library card system the

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02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:30,750
Dewey Decimal System URI right and and I

2501
02:13:36,050 --> 02:13:32,730
would go and pull that thing open and go

2502
02:13:38,689 --> 02:13:36,060
straight to UFO as soon as I could spell

2503
02:13:41,150 --> 02:13:38,699
the UFO as soon as I could spell it I'm

2504
02:13:43,430 --> 02:13:41,160
talking about young right seven eight

2505
02:13:48,020 --> 02:13:43,440
years old that's what I did when I went

2506
02:13:54,650 --> 02:13:48,030
into a library hey Fran enjoy and have a

2507
02:13:59,300 --> 02:13:54,660
great fun safe meri quickness okay thank

2508
02:14:02,390 --> 02:13:59,310
you so much friend luggage absolutely

2509
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:02,400
what a great show tonight Jason thank

2510
02:14:10,459 --> 02:14:07,199
you so much and now you get to go and

2511
02:14:13,130 --> 02:14:10,469
spend your time with your family and

2512
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:13,140
friends and and kick off Christmas and

2513
02:14:16,970 --> 02:14:14,880
I've only got a minute left I've got

2514
02:14:17,450 --> 02:14:16,980
less than that what are you guys doing

2515
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:17,460
tomorrow

2516
02:14:24,260 --> 02:14:21,690
or do you wait till Christmas Day we're

2517
02:14:26,990 --> 02:14:24,270
gonna open them tomorrow before we leave

2518
02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:27,000
to Monica's parents place for Christmas

2519
02:14:31,070 --> 02:14:28,530
Eve yeah there you go

2520
02:14:33,650 --> 02:14:31,080
well safe travels give our best to

2521
02:14:37,700 --> 02:14:33,660
Monica and you guys have a great quick

2522
02:14:39,310 --> 02:14:37,710
miss Eve tomorrow night and go spend it

2523
02:14:42,320 --> 02:14:39,320
with your family and have a great time

2524
02:14:44,540 --> 02:14:42,330
thank you again for having me on and it

2525
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:44,550
was so much fun thank you so much Jason

2526
02:14:51,439 --> 02:14:47,370
behave and be well and Jason's website

2527
02:14:55,370 --> 02:14:51,449
is the crystal Sun calm and it's right

2528
02:14:57,620 --> 02:14:55,380
there at Jimmy Church radio.com and with

2529
02:15:00,890 --> 02:14:57,630
that I'm gonna leave you with one more

2530
02:15:04,610 --> 02:15:00,900
very special track here we go this has

2531
02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:04,620
been our Mary quickness especially vent

2532
02:15:11,270 --> 02:15:08,310
with Jason quit I want everybody to go

2533
02:15:13,970 --> 02:15:11,280
out and enjoy the next two days spend it

2534
02:15:14,890 --> 02:15:13,980
with family and friends I am your host

2535
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:14,900
Jimmy church

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02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:16,370
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02:15:22,670 --> 02:15:19,440
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02:15:24,470 --> 02:15:22,680
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02:15:27,580 --> 02:15:24,480
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02:15:30,260 --> 02:15:27,590
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02:15:33,230 --> 02:15:30,270
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02:15:43,430 --> 02:15:39,900
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02:15:47,150 --> 02:15:43,440
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02:15:49,370 --> 02:15:47,160
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02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:49,380
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02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:51,210
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2549
02:15:55,370 --> 02:15:53,370
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2550
02:15:57,140 --> 02:15:55,380
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2551
02:15:59,030 --> 02:15:57,150
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2552
02:16:06,020 --> 02:15:59,040
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2553
02:16:12,220 --> 02:16:08,090
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2554
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:12,230
Carson until then everybody be safe

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Gobekli Tepe